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#401
I think Nokia's aim with the N900 and Maemo 5 was to see how the techie/geek community would embrace the device. I think it's a safe bet to say that most of us, who aren't students, have better paying jobs than the average consumer, and therefore can afford several high end devices a year. Maemo 5 in a sense is a proving ground for what is going to work when it's sent out to the masses in Maemo 6. It makes logical sense to have compatibility on the N900 to have Maemo 6 because they can have two version of Maemo 6, capacitive and resistive, which I think might be the goal. I think Nokia has been tightlipped about it all, because why let the competition have any sort of information in a cutthroat industry such as this?
 
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Now, let me summarize the situation from a technical point of view (if you are looking for a business point of view you will need to ask a business representative).
Thanks for that explanation. Now let me explain from a CUSTOMER point of view (since I can vote with my wallet by never purchasing another Nokia device again, and influencing my family and peers to do the same)

I bought the N900 1 month ago. After monitoring the bug tracker and the brainstorm(lol..) section of this site, I'm noticing a LOT of issues being pushed off on the NEXT version of maemo, and there IS NO OFFICIAL WORD that maemo 6 will even work on the N900. As a consumer, this sickens me. Technical reasons or not, Nokia ****ed up, and I know I'm not the only consumer of the N900 that is thoroughly upset with Nokia's 1) lack of communication with the customers, 2) focusing bug fixes and features on a totally different OS ONE(1) MONTH AFTER IT IS RELEASED (again that may not even work on N900, but Nokia gives NO peace of mind here!)

As a business professional, I SERIOUSLY question the "do not tell the customer anything!" strategy that Nokia is taking on this issue (and pretty much every issue I can remember with my experience dealing with Nokia and their products). Some companies can be successful in slowly feeding information to customers (Apple), Nokia has demonstrated time and time again that they are doing it totally wrong.

Hey Nokia, quit avoiding the question. Will Maemo 6 run on the N900?

/very disgruntled customer
 

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
but this business model just can't stand when the competitors (here in the US) are supporting their devices for years.
Apple are, yes (so far anyway - rumours are this is changing with the next version). Android aren't getting version updates. Not sure about Blackberry or WinMo, and Palm are too recent to know.
 
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Originally Posted by Rob1n View Post
Apple are, yes (so far anyway - rumours are this is changing with the next version). Android aren't getting version updates. Not sure about Blackberry or WinMo, and Palm are too recent to know.
android doesnt get updates?
 
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Originally Posted by Matan View Post
Here you are certainly wrong. Nokia don't even have the decency to announce when they stop supporting a device, so it will not be "officially dead", only "practically dead". Look at the N810 for details.
Thanks given for the laugh this gave me.
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Originally Posted by Rob1n View Post
Apple are, yes (so far anyway - rumours are this is changing with the next version). Android aren't getting version updates. Not sure about Blackberry or WinMo, and Palm are too recent to know.
Eh?

The G1 got from 1.5-1.6, the only reason it's not going to 2.0 is there isn't space in the boot area.. The CLIQ is not getting 2.0 because most of the features added to 2.0 were done the "motorola" way with their BLUR. But both of these devices still get updates if a flaw is found in the kernel, etc.

The Droid should be getting an update to 2.0. Several other lesser-known androids will get it too.

Not to mention, that almost 2 years after the G1 release, I still get new apps on it. If the N900 is surpassed in 6-8 months after release.. there will be no new apps for it. Just like there are no new apps for the N810 really anymore. Even most of the old apps in independent repo's are dead and gone.

So yes.. the G1 is still not yet abandoned - and even if it became obsolete tomorrow lasted longer than what it appears the N900 will last at twice-three times the price.
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Eh?

The G1 got from 1.5-1.6, the only reason it's not going to 2.0 is there isn't space in the boot area.. The CLIQ is not getting 2.0 because most of the features added to 2.0 were done the "motorola" way with their BLUR. But both of these devices still get updates if a flaw is found in the kernel, etc.

The Droid should be getting an update to 2.0. Several other lesser-known androids will get it too.

Not to mention, that almost 2 years after the G1 release, I still get new apps on it. If the N900 is surpassed in 6-8 months after release.. there will be no new apps for it. Just like there are no new apps for the N810 really anymore. Even most of the old apps in independent repo's are dead and gone.

So yes.. the G1 is still not yet abandoned - and even if it became obsolete tomorrow lasted longer than what it appears the N900 will last at twice-three times the price.
Motorola recently announced that the cliq is in fact getting 2.1. Also the droid shipped with 2.0, so its update will be to 2.1. It seems that none of the other manufacturers would pull this move.
 
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Originally Posted by craftyguy View Post
Hey Nokia, quit avoiding the question. Will Maemo 6 run on the N900?
Is that really so difficult to answer??? DIRECT ANSWER FROM AN OFFICIAL SOURCE is just what the majority of the community is demanding, not even have to give us the date...

If Nokia will indeed support Maemo 6 on N900, why keep it a secret??
 

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#409
This release cycle just seems strange to me. I don't think the specs can be that much different from the N900. Probable enhancements for the N910 will just be capacitive screen, more mem and faster cpu in Mhz. In light of these speculations Harmattan in my mind is going to run on the N900.

The poor implementation of Ovi Maps really pisses me too, but realistically I don't need the service critically. Turn by turn navigation is coming but probably not from Nokia first.

The apathy from these forum posts is really contagious and im feeling the depression already and I haven't owned the device even for a week. I really hope we just keep out hopes and spirits high and try to offer our support to those devs that are doing a good work developing apps that we want and giving positive feedback.

Spreading negative and apathic rumors around only makes new users like me feel that I made the wrong decision to invest in only the best device on the market.

Quit the negative rumor spreading and start spreading positive feelings and positive ideas.
 

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Eh?

The G1 got from 1.5-1.6, the only reason it's not going to 2.0 is there isn't space in the boot area.. The CLIQ is not getting 2.0 because most of the features added to 2.0 were done the "motorola" way with their BLUR. But both of these devices still get updates if a flaw is found in the kernel, etc.
Those are minor version updates, not much different than the PR1.0, PR1.1, and forthcoming PR1.2 updates for the N900.

Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
The Droid should also be getting an update to 2.0.
The Droid came with 2.0 didn't it? Again, a minor update to 2.1 is predicted.

Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Not to mention, that almost 2 years after the G1 release, I still get new apps on it. If the N900 is surpassed in 6-8 months after release.. there will be no new apps for it. Just like there are no new apps for the N810 really anymore. Even most of the old apps in independent repo's are dead and gone.
I still get new apps for my N800. This has nothing to do with support by Nokia/Google though - it's down to the developers. And the G1 release date was Oct 08, so it's not even 1.5 years old yet.

I'm quite willing to admit that Nokia are failing to make the commitment they ought to for longer term support (whether they fail to offer the support will only be seen in time though). To claim that all their competitors are far superior in this matter is way off mark though.
 

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