Originally Posted by Texrat

location, location, location!

Oh wait-- that's for movie making.

1. Need for future revenue
2. Who else is positioned to do this?
3. It's also cool

Originally Posted by m_sparks

(looks at the puzzle pieces and finds one more..)

O.K. lets take that track...how about this...it may not be what many would call ideal, but it would include the 770, the n800, and what ever may come in the future. I think a small seperate bluetooth (2.0) device that performs the cellular/Wimax/3g connection may be what were putting together here. Nokia could then have a device that is setup for the type of systems in use in different countres, say europe (GSM/UMTS), USA (CDMA/GSM/Wimax), and japan (imode..i think).
Like I said..may not be "ideal" because we're back to carring two devices, but if it was small and pocketable...I wouldn't mind.

I know what you all are thinking - "ya, thats a phone jackass!"
but what i'm thinking of is a small screenless device that only has the radio and authentication (sim card or EID#) nesscary for a paticular system.

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens

Hehehe! You remembered.



I'm quite certain we'll never see it: It's way too practical.

Originally Posted by pieter_jh

Here's another symptom:
1.Nokia sold, or were selling, or are selling, their division that were/is building GSM networks and infrastructure. Not the action of a company that believes in the future of a given technology...

Originally Posted by Texrat

Not exactly. Networks was turned into a joint venture with Siemens.

Originally Posted by nedim

Open source and cell phones are not mutually exclusive. Motorola has several phones based on Linux. PalmOS has taken the Linux route. Blackberries are Java based with all the API exposed. I had both PalmOS and Blackberry phone and I could run what I want including things that would render my phone useless. How is that different from N800? Phone has no magic properties that make it a special device.

Originally Posted by richie

They are way more restrictions on cell phones than say a PC or the current N800. This I understand is because the cell phone networks want to control their network. Some of it is worrying about untested software on their network and some is commercially motivated.

Motorola do use Linux on their phone, but it doesn't mean you have control. Software used is Java, not C or C++ programs, you are limited in what you can do. You couldn't easily flash a new kernel if you wanted a new feature, like SDHC support with the N800. A cellphone layer on an IT could mean the end of open development, it may mean for example you can not run maemo mapper, mplayer. There may be a way round it, new hardware maybe separated from the OS.

Probably the best way to follow why I'm worried about a cell phone layer comes from Nokia's Ari Jaajsi himself, see his blog, jaaksi cell phones Click the link and scroll to post dated 23rd Nov 2006 "Phones are boring" - subtitle "Phones are restricted"

Things maybe okay, but if Nokia themselves started the IT because phones are restrictive, then it could do with a reassuring message from Nokia that this won't change Maemo dev.

Cheers
Rich

Originally Posted by Texrat

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