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magellan94 is offline magellan94
2010-03-17 , 18:04
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#251
Here's my experience!

I DIT IT!

Well...
- the open map is quite too light, (i've not found even my city near Paris... :/) but i can't critize. I'll try to find routenplaner to test another maps.
- I've putted the right XML files, modified for maps. Ok. Works... but good only with gtk library. I don't understand why, but in submenus of the native interface, impossible to type any route! Setting "no" to normal gui, and "yes" to gtk, i can type and make it calculate. Quite long (not surprising with a beta), but working.
- Executing by the icon make navit unstable. Execute it with root privilege make stable. Perharps a grant problem on some files?
- no crash log, but some alerts to "Can't load "name of the file.xpm". Maybe do i need to put many more icons?
(the XML profile which i tool is from this post
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=127
only modified for the map, and the gui valor).

I'll test it much more, but i can validate that:
- It works
- It is not so complicate as i thought (yeah... it's not automatic... And what? )
- Open street map is not enough (for now, will see later) to make a real substitute to a not free map system
- Quite stable (for a first experience), but when executing with xterm.


Why not implement a small .sh which execute
Code:
sudo gainroot
./opt/navit/bin/navit
If it's possible, of course.

I'll try to understand why my gui interface doesn't really good...
 
Kjow is offline Kjow
2010-03-17 , 19:00
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#252
Originally Posted by hara View Post
Did you even try to read the post I gave a link to?

GPS is enabled by default. You either have incorrect xml files, they're at wrong places or you're using the default xml-files. Download the Navit.zip package from Trek1701 post earlier in this thread. Unpack it to /home/user/.navit and modify the files to your liking.
Yes, I read and I followed the instructions, but maybe I didn't understand or it didn't work for me...

I used the Navit.zip pack and I tried to modify navit.xml but I don't know if it is right... so, can you tell me what and how to do?

Thanks
 
hara is offline hara
2010-03-17 , 19:37
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#253
Originally Posted by Kjow View Post
Yes, I read and I followed the instructions, but maybe I didn't understand or it didn't work for me...

I used the Navit.zip pack and I tried to modify navit.xml but I don't know if it is right... so, can you tell me what and how to do?

Thanks
For starters, start it from xterminal. Just fire up xterminal, and type navit and hit Enter-key. And if possible, paste the output here so we can analyse what's going on.

@Magellan94: Shouldn't be any permission problems. It's true that some POI-images still are missing, they're missing completely from the source (for example shop_grocery.xpm/png). But those missing icons aren't the cause of crash. I think it might have to do with some missing libraries or alike. Will investigate more at it.

I run navit as the default user and it doesn't crash at all. However, I run navit with on a freshly flashed n900.

I will try to release tomorrow a more fresh package from SVN, put the correct dependencies. Hopefully that will solve the problems.
 

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magellan94 is offline magellan94
2010-03-17 , 22:11
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#254
Originally Posted by hara View Post
For starters, start it from xterminal. Just fire up xterminal, and type navit and hit Enter-key. And if possible, paste the output here so we can analyse what's going on.

@Magellan94: Shouldn't be any permission problems. It's true that some POI-images still are missing, they're missing completely from the source (for example shop_grocery.xpm/png). But those missing icons aren't the cause of crash. I think it might have to do with some missing libraries or alike. Will investigate more at it.

I run navit as the default user and it doesn't crash at all. However, I run navit with on a freshly flashed n900.

I will try to release tomorrow a more fresh package from SVN, put the correct dependencies. Hopefully that will solve the problems.
- For the missing items... not really a problem for me (i'm not really interested by these POi's)
- For the crashes, i cant' blame : it's experimental, compiled without a real support, so i've not to complain^^
- The only thing i can't understand, is that the GUI doesn't work properly... and that is a real problem, cause the GTK makes it looks like a "PC" app, and on a "small" screen...

So... waiting for the next release!

PS:
Here's the alternative link for DL the (for now) last Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?uzyrd5znjjj

Good night !(for me, it's 11PM in France )
 
magellan94 is offline magellan94
2010-03-17 , 22:23
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#255
another strange thing... if i run under root, i've a screen with gtk!
If i run Xterm and bash navit, i get another front end, with specific menus...

Somebody can explain it?
 
hara is offline hara
2010-03-17 , 22:27
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#256
Originally Posted by magellan94 View Post
another strange thing... if i run under root, i've a screen with gtk!
If i run Xterm and bash navit, i get another front end, with specific menus...

Somebody can explain it?
You get different behaviour because you don't have same xml files for root (in /root/.navit).
 

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Kjow is offline Kjow
2010-03-17 , 23:23
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#257
Originally Posted by hara View Post
For starters, start it from xterminal. Just fire up xterminal, and type navit and hit Enter-key. And if possible, paste the output here so we can analyse what's going on.

@Magellan94: Shouldn't be any permission problems. It's true that some POI-images still are missing, they're missing completely from the source (for example shop_grocery.xpm/png). But those missing icons aren't the cause of crash. I think it might have to do with some missing libraries or alike. Will investigate more at it.

I run navit as the default user and it doesn't crash at all. However, I run navit with on a freshly flashed n900.

I will try to release tomorrow a more fresh package from SVN, put the correct dependencies. Hopefully that will solve the problems.
I copied *.xml to wrong dir, I copied it in /home/user/.navit/
Now I copied to /etc/navit/ and GPS icon appears.

But no HUD on the map...
 
luipaard is offline luipaard
2010-03-18 , 00:14
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#258
I installed the application. It's very impressive. That would be very nice to use, but first things first.

I'm using OpenStreetMap here. All the local streets are on the map,but they are not showing up on the search field of the navigator. I even added is_in tags to the streets and it didn't help either.

Fortunately I was able to export OpenStreetMap XML data and edit the tags myself. It seems that, if I move the city center some kilometers to the east, the missing streets are listed now. That did the trick, but sure we cannot move the centers of the cities.

Perhaps the reason to the peculiar behaviour is that the big cities are just beside each others here in the capital area of Finland. Can someone explain, what is the way Navit checks if a street is locates to a city?
 
svalavuo is offline svalavuo
2010-03-18 , 07:24
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#259
Originally Posted by magellan94 View Post
another strange thing... if i run under root, i've a screen with gtk!
If i run Xterm and bash navit, i get another front end, with specific menus...

Somebody can explain it?
Hi,

You have different environment as root.
I have the exactly same behaving with my N900 + navit. Even this svn -version didn't help

The way to keep it stable and get the right UI (for me) is to:
1) run xterminal
2) sudo gainroot
3) run-standalone.sh navit

That way I get the right UI and navit doesn't crash when I try to insert a destination.
Hope this helps to you as well.
Last edited by svalavuo; 2010-03-18 at 07:25. Reason: inserted xterm
 

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magellan94 is offline magellan94
2010-03-18 , 08:52
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#260
New log:
- With gtk GUI, get "gdb not found", with no details
-> Crash immedialty, and its crashes when validate a track (with this error)
I've found another "bug", with the bookmark.txt (under /home/user/.navit). File is missing (probably need to be created by recording a bookmark). Made a file manually, and the alert disapear.

I think that the original installation of the Gtk library has been badly made (files or folders missing?)

What do you think about it?

Another annoying thing: I put a smaller map (thinking that is the map size is involved).. no change: the search fields doesn't return the streets i want to have.
But...
Tried to find the streets on the open street map system: they exists! I extracted my own map to XML file (.osm format), found the city, the street, controlled the GPS position with another tool: match! But Navit doesn't find it.

Is there a cache into the apply where is located the city, streets names? Maybe have i to clean it before using a smaller/another map?
Last edited by magellan94; 2010-03-18 at 10:52.
 
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