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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Shady 91'
IMO best way to do this is to collect all the apps in download basket. In your way of doing it you hit overall time spend in app manager and installing stuff. Searching as app manager installs program in background would take ages. Waste of time in both processes. Remember that app manager makes searches and functions locally on your n900. btw. Does iphones install program do search on server side?
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Shady 91'
when u open the camera slider there is a preemption u want to take a picture or record a video. hence the sound coming from the music player is stopped. This is a design and not a flaw. It has nothing to do with multi tasking which means the ability to run more than one program at the same time. multitasking does not mean every program would run in their optimal level with all functions working because this could lead to chaos . (e.g when you are playing music and a call comes in, the music would be pulsed till your call is ended. so even though your music player is still running doing an active call, some of it functions are suspended because the call is given priority. if this were not the case the N900 would be unusable. If you do not like the fact that the N900 gives priority to the camera over the music player you can always file a bug report or an enhancement request and make your suggestion known.
My title is provocative:
I wonder why, if I play a song and then i Open the lens cover in photo mode, the music stopped. (My old N70 do it)
Moreover, why if i installed an application i can't search other apps during the process?
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Shady 91'
I can see how not being able to search for other apps while you're downloading or installing some app can lead to the conclusion that the n900 doesn't have multi-tasking.
I don't agree. I think is better if we colud select and install one apps for times, and meanwhile we search other and maybe we at least select for download. Is Same thing happens on the iPhone I think
However I assure you that this is not a multi-tasking problem.
The application installer needs to be sure that its internal data and files are consistent and undamaged. The simplest way to do this is to maintain a "lock" on the application database - in the form of a file. If that file is present, any second instance of the installer will stop trying to access the application database.
So what I'm saying is - yes it seems like a multi-tasking failure when you cannot search apps when you are installing an app, but that is not so much a bug as it is a feature - to keep your application data and files undamaged.
How is this not "non-multi-tasking"? Try this - while some application is being installed, play some music. Does it work?
Does that prove that the n900 has multi-tasking?
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Helmuth
i'll have to go +1 on this...
For the multitasking FUD: I can't playback a video in Background!
That's very sad. I would like to check eMails or write SMS sometimes during watching a movie. Stop the Image and continue only the audio playback would fix this for me.
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Helmuth
Of course it can. But then you might be able to play music to hide the shutter sound.
On the most desktop machines you will hear booth sounds at a time, but the N900 driver can't handle more than one source at a time. The driver can't mix it.
There is a (quite aggressive) policy service (some 3rd party developers already learnt to hate it) running on the N900 in the background ensuring things like there's no other sound playing while the camera lens are open or a SMS alert is played. It has nothing to do with the driver or the hardware not be able to handle it. It's just a policy made up by somebody thinking different from you.
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Shady 91'
that's not a sensible scenario.
I don't agree. I think is better if we colud select and install one apps for times, and meanwhile we search other and maybe we at least select for download. Is Same thing happens on the iPhone I think
more sensible would be to search packages and then install them all.
that would be faster and less tedious.
as other have already pointed out, your issue is partially a design decision of apt (easily circumvented by doing as said above) and the poor app manager.
if you rather often find yourself in the need of installing more then one app, have a look at the shell and apt's man page.
basically the two, three commands you will need are:
apt-get search foo
looks for all packages with "foo" in their names or descriptions
apt-get show foo
will display the package information for the package with exactly the name "foo"
apt-get install foo bar
will install the packages named "foo" and "bar".
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2010-04-11
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N900 can multitask. Just like a PC. But it doesn't mean apps has to within itself also. You are right, HAM cannot do multiple things at the same time. It is annoying but oh well, what can you do. Maybe they'll make more improvements to HAM later. I hope they do as it definitely is slow refreshing.
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by arne.anka
apt-get search foo
looks for all packages with "foo" in their names or descriptions
apt-get show foo
will display the package information for the package with exactly the name "foo"
apt-get install foo bar
will install the packages named "foo" and "bar".
and this is what the app manager just should do... just mark the things you want to do and then at the end say install all..
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2010-04-11
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Multitask is an application in your menu....now go get your head into searching for it and then reply....
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
no doubt about that.
and this is what the app manager just should do... just mark the things you want to do and then at the end say install all..
and it was my first thought when i saw that app manger in action, too.
but coming from debian and having bought the n900 not at least b/c of the hw keyboard ... i hardly use that app manager at all.