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2010-05-19
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i think you are misunderstanding! speaks out means "says the name of the caller out loud with a voice!...like someone talking to you..
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2010-05-19
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Anything that you buy that only does basics AFTER you download something you would consider half finished. That in itself is a bug IMHO, a problem and well worth pointing out to anyone that needs or wants to buy this phone. Buy a BMW but you have to download and apply later the air con, central locking, electric windows and back seats. The kind of thing every other decent car provides
For me the three killers.
Ovi store is less than rubbish.
Ovi suite doesn't support this phone. (Neither does PC suite fully)
Ovi maps. What is the point. (Can we get google maps?)
Out of the box MMS, caller / SMS notification (Missed and arrived), ringtones for separate callers. And of course downloading 14 apps to get basics is a problem.
Of all the apps you have mentioned, how many are ACTUALLY finished. I have a massive issue of battery life when I put extras devel lists on. So I don't, and funnily enough, hardly any useful apps appear six months after I got the phone.
For me the three killers.
Ovi store is less than rubbish.
Ovi suite doesn't support this phone. (Neither does PC suite fully)
Ovi maps. What is the point. (Can we get google maps?)
Out of the box MMS, caller / SMS notification (Missed and arrived), ringtones for separate callers. And of course downloading 14 apps to get basics is a problem.
Of all the apps you have mentioned, how many are ACTUALLY finished. I have a massive issue of battery life when I put extras devel lists on. So I don't, and funnily enough, hardly any useful apps appear six months after I got the phone.
Originally Posted by giecsar
Vodaphone and Expansys (Main UK suppliers) sell it as a phone. So somewhere that message is being ignored. If you buy it as a phone, have it sold as a phone, listed with other phones and actually titled as a phone. You expect a phone.
The N900 has phone capabilities as an added bonus, but it's actually an internet tablet (or mobile computer if you like).
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2010-05-19
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Originally Posted by Raubtier
You serious?
i think you are misunderstanding! speaks out means "says the name of the caller out loud with a voice!...like someone talking to you..
Imagine your phone is shouting "YO MOM IS CALLING YOU!!!! YO MOM IS CALLING YOU" during a business meeting, or yelling "SEXY BEACH IS CALLING YOU!!! SEXY BEACH IS CALLING YOU!!" when I'm picking up another girl. Ooops.
Sorry man, this is the last feature I'd want in my phone. Just no.
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2010-05-19
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Hi twigleaf1976, you're making good points here. I wish you don't mind I bring points from other perspective, just for discussion.
The key is whether you consider N900 as a phone or as a computer. Please read on.
How is Nokia marketing the N900 ? Is it a phone ?
It is sold as a mobile computer with the Internet in its heart, and it was introduced as 'step 4 of 5' for tech leaders / lovers. If you want a mature Nokia mobile phone with extensive Java support and full SIM features then there are plenty of choices based on Series40 and Symbian. I think Nokia has been clear on that since http://maemo.nokia.com was launched this Summer.
Source : Quim Gil (Nokia) (http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect)
Nokia does sell N900 as a mobile computer. I'm sorry that it failed your expectation, but it's just not sold as a phone, only.
I want a tablet PC with cellular communication capability running Linux. Nokia makes a product I really want so I buy it and am happy with it. You expect something else, so your disappointment is understood.
Last edited by 9000; 2010-05-19 at 15:58.
Originally Posted by twigleaf1976
Windows comes along with outright crappy word processor (wordpad) and a lousy image editor (mspaint). So can we say Windows can't do better job in word processing and image editing because it doesn't provide the best things by default? You know the answer.
Anything that you buy that only does basics AFTER you download something you would consider half finished. That in itself is a bug IMHO, a problem and well worth pointing out to anyone that needs or wants to buy this phone. Buy a BMW but you have to download and apply later the air con, central locking, electric windows and back seats. The kind of thing every other decent car provides
The key is whether you consider N900 as a phone or as a computer. Please read on.
Vodaphone and Expansys (Main UK suppliers) sell it as a phone. So somewhere that message is being ignored. If you buy it as a phone, have it sold as a phone, listed with other phones and actually titled as a phone. You expect a phone.
How is Nokia marketing the N900 ? Is it a phone ?
It is sold as a mobile computer with the Internet in its heart, and it was introduced as 'step 4 of 5' for tech leaders / lovers. If you want a mature Nokia mobile phone with extensive Java support and full SIM features then there are plenty of choices based on Series40 and Symbian. I think Nokia has been clear on that since http://maemo.nokia.com was launched this Summer.
Source : Quim Gil (Nokia) (http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect)
Nokia does sell N900 as a mobile computer. I'm sorry that it failed your expectation, but it's just not sold as a phone, only.
I want a tablet PC with cellular communication capability running Linux. Nokia makes a product I really want so I buy it and am happy with it. You expect something else, so your disappointment is understood.
Last edited by 9000; 2010-05-19 at 15:58.
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2010-05-19
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well the nokia n95 had it for example by default. its only an option, you can turn it off. its very practical when you are far away from the phone and it tells you who is calling because you can decide whether you want to go to the phone or let it ring..
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2010-05-19
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
I think putting the word "Possible" at the front of this thread's title may make it more accurate. The lack of some features isn't an issue for everyone, in fact some folks are happy not have some of the over-hyped "features" mentioned in this thread. Also, not everyone experiences the same bugs or problems.
Okay what word would you like me to replace Issues with in the Heading? It is meant to be a comprehensive list of all possible negatives on the N900 so a potential buyer can see all the annoyances, major hardware defaults, minor software defaults, major software default. It then helps them to make an informed decision. On that basis it is not a question of deleting any of those things. Amending the heading is possibly the more appropriate thing so any suggestions will be appreciated.
While some of the comments here are just hyperbole, this thread is useful and informative and it is impressive to see such open and lively discussion.
BTW, I don't understand why this thread's stickied. If this merits a sticky perhaps a thread that helps to show solutions should be stickied too.
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2010-05-19
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Google maps has to be made available by google and not nokia
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2010-05-19
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Originally Posted by Grok
I second you. I'm surprise it ever stays sticky, given the fact that majority of the posts in this thread are whining and babbling.
BTW, I don't understand why this thread's stickied. If this merits a sticky perhaps a thread that helps to show solutions should be stickied too.
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2010-05-20
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I don't see why it would have been so hard to include all the typical "phone" features ppl have come to expect as standard these days.
It sort of feels like they developed it to a certain level, then someone said "yeah, that'll do", and then went home and never came back.
I still <3 my N900
It sort of feels like they developed it to a certain level, then someone said "yeah, that'll do", and then went home and never came back.
I still <3 my N900
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2010-05-21
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Originally Posted by 316comp
I suspect they were targeting users like myself, for whom some phone features are secondary to everything else the device provides. As a result the device's phone capabilities fill my needsfully, and I get way more out of the networking and openly *inx aspects of the device.
I don't see why it would have been so hard to include all the typical "phone" features ppl have come to expect as standard these days.
It sort of feels like they developed it to a certain level, then someone said "yeah, that'll do", and then went home and never came back.
Not the device for everyone, definitely not primarily a phone (though usable as one,) and definitely not perfect, but a good device nonetheless.