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2010-05-25
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Wow, I can't seriously believe how much like little children most of you are.
Those who are saying "Oh, PR1.2 was SO late!", obviously you have never waited for any other software before. Especially Linux Distributions.
Anyone who has ever followed the progress of a Linux Distro, especially one like Debian which Maemo is based upon, will know that when they switch toolkits or even major version upgrade of the same toolkit, it takes time to re-compile everything, and to get it all working right.
I specifically mention Debian because they are a 'release when it's ready' distribution.
Honestly, Qt 4.6 itself hasn't been out that long, we've gotten 3 updates to the N900 within 5 months. Do you even remotely realize how often most other phones get updates?
Really, the only reason to want MeeGo at all was for Qt 4.6. It's RPM based, so any of the nice apt-get stuff will not be possible, yum has slightly different commands, so you'll be learning new things. Not to mention that apt has been historically faster than yum. Apt on the N900 is really slow in comparison, so I could only imagine the pain of using Yum....
From what other posts have said, the hardware support is already done or very close to being finished for MeeGo on the N900.
There is already the Meego Image Creator under Arch Linux. I haven't gotten it to install yet because the repos are empty, the option is certainly there to play around with it!
So stop all your whining, and hope that Nokia will port over Flash10.1, which really is the only other thing I expect them to do at this point.
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Those who are saying "Oh, PR1.2 was SO late!", obviously you have never waited for any other software before. Especially Linux Distributions.
Anyone who has ever followed the progress of a Linux Distro, especially one like Debian which Maemo is based upon, will know that when they switch toolkits or even major version upgrade of the same toolkit, it takes time to re-compile everything, and to get it all working right.
I specifically mention Debian because they are a 'release when it's ready' distribution.
Honestly, Qt 4.6 itself hasn't been out that long, we've gotten 3 updates to the N900 within 5 months. Do you even remotely realize how often most other phones get updates?
Really, the only reason to want MeeGo at all was for Qt 4.6. It's RPM based, so any of the nice apt-get stuff will not be possible, yum has slightly different commands, so you'll be learning new things. Not to mention that apt has been historically faster than yum. Apt on the N900 is really slow in comparison, so I could only imagine the pain of using Yum....
From what other posts have said, the hardware support is already done or very close to being finished for MeeGo on the N900.
There is already the Meego Image Creator under Arch Linux. I haven't gotten it to install yet because the repos are empty, the option is certainly there to play around with it!
So stop all your whining, and hope that Nokia will port over Flash10.1, which really is the only other thing I expect them to do at this point.
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2010-05-25
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Flash and Ovi Maps is all what I want.
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Actually, the people in Nokia DO care about people.
There you go its a bleak story yet again from a company that only cares about money forget people !.
Just because Meego on n900 may not be "officially supported upgrade" does not mean it won't run on it.
But, besides, that did you ever think that Meego might not be ready yet? and it might not be ready in the near future? Are you really ready to wait that long?
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by saruji
hmm. I'm pretty sure my n770, my n800, and my n810 are still running fine and did not magically stop when I got a n900.
"rest assured that Nokia will continue to support the core Maemo software on your Nokia N900"
So is that going to be like the assurance we got for the n810 platform?.....or more like death in under 9 month and your outdated device gets laughed at.
Nokia is the most pathetic incompetent pack of losers to ever walk into an IT room or get in the market.
With hopes of being truely "open" after relying on the market on zero innovation and a 100% reliance on Symbian they are losing market share and running scarred for the hill.
You know what, keep your MeeGo, Intel is going to create their own locked down OS built especially for their Moorestown chip and MeeGo is just going to be a bridge gaper along with Android. Which, might I add, are just about light years ahead of you, at least they support the user who shells out the $500 for your unfinished device. And Apple? They are in a different universe comparing to you.
You know as much as I hate em and how much they get bashed by zealot users on this site, you can still install any new app on your very first iphone 8bg that you bought back in 2006 to this day and it runs at near identical speeds.
One more thing, I've had my posts deleted before, posts that were not insulting that were not violating any rules set in place, why were they deleted, because they were not favorable to Nokia. So if any of you folks feel that Nokia is going to be something more "open" in the future, your lying to yourself.
My personal take on the future is that open is going to all close, minus maybe openmoko. And the closes that anyone is going to get to being truely "open" and at the same time competent, it is going to be the Android platform. Currently Nokia cannot satisfy even one of those....
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Apparently, you do not know how open qt development is, or that Symbian was open sourced.
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by lpotter
Why did you upgrade from n770, n800, n810 to n900?
hmm. I'm pretty sure my n770, my n800, and my n810 are still running fine and did not magically stop when I got a n900.
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2010-05-25
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Is this really a bad thing? Oh boy, I'm sure going to miss that wonderful ovi services integration I currently enjoy, and the feature rich Nokia applications that come on the device!
If vanilla meego on the n900 is any LESS functional than maemo, Intel and Nokia might as well throw in the towel right now.
If vanilla meego on the n900 is any LESS functional than maemo, Intel and Nokia might as well throw in the towel right now.
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by Jack6428
Well, possibly, just possibly, Meego is still a work on the [black/white]board and is still being planned out. Which would explain not having anything to communicate about. "Oh this week we decided that the messaging app would have menu system on it with nice little icons. Next week we'll decide on which icons" <- is this type of thing news to communicate?
What pisses me off more than the fact that MeeGo won't be on the N900, is the attitude and approach of Nokia - full of lies, if and maybe - or no communication at all. I loved Nokia for many years, but this just I simply hate, with any manufacturer.
Work is just starting on Meego. Do you think it's going to magically appear out of nowhere, fully spit polished and ready for your grandma's use? Are you willing to just wait that long for your Meego powered n900?
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by Rocketman
ehhh.. didn't you just get an update?
No, the question is who the **** is going to buy anything for $600 from Nokia given the poor treatment users have received time and again? The 770 situation sucked, but was justifiable, but there is really no excuse for abandoning the N900 this early in its life-cycle.
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2010-05-25
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Originally Posted by Frappacino
wow, there's a few here in Brisbane that need to be sold, too...
hahaha - at least they gave a proper answer this time
so n900 officially a dead end device now, only get token support from now on. If you think otherwise I got a big bridge in Sydney I would like to sell you.
Did your n900 magically just stop working with this news?
community port ? hah - 10 to 1 I bet you the paid app market will not work on the n900 Meego port. There will be theoretical "compatibility", but good luck getting it in practice.
why will ANYONE recommend the n900 to anyone but a hardcore linux geek ? hah
no wonder they didnt give a straight answer earlier, they wanted it released with PR1.2 to "soften" the blow.
what a joke. F you Nokia
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they are just updating a existing OS same as nokia do with PR 1.1 and PR 1.2.
no mobile device as ever had an official update to a completely different Operating System, they just fix bugs and add new features to the one existing on the devices, NOKIA have been doing this for years but it seems to made into a big deal if your google or apple