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not having flash 10.1 is making me suicidal. lol
 
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not having flash 10.1 is making me suicidal. lol
I feel your pain. You are a beautiful human being. I hope you make it through this adversity.
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Perhaps China should not have been financing US debt but instead raising the living standard of Chinese people...
That is one way the chinese government has been raising the living standard in China. Successfully, I should add.

The chinese people's living standard increase at about double the rate of average increase across Asia.
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U might think I am crazy or something.. but I am so sick of modern consumption oriented economy and all issues it cause that I beginning to believe this is less and less crazy every day to me:

http://www.thevenusproject.com/
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In a sick variation on angel wings,

when you complain about a delayed device, a worker in china kills himself
 
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Just so you guys know, Nokia's no saint either, they push the Finnish government around. Put "lex nokia" into Google and see what comes up.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
That is one way the chinese government has been raising the living standard in China. Successfully, I should add.
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I fail to see how lending money (or giving goods for free) can raise anyone's standard in the short run. I would rather believe that the standards have gone up due to the fraction of the Chinese production that was actually paid for.

You cannot eat your lunch and have it too. If we are enjoying cheap gadgets in todays shitty economy, then someone else is paying the difference. If not the Chinese, then our kids.
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Originally Posted by Sopwith View Post
I fail to see how lending money (or giving goods for free) can raise anyone's standard in the short run. I would rather believe that the standards have gone up due to the fraction of the Chinese production that was actually paid for.

You cannot eat your lunch and have it too. If we are enjoying cheap gadgets in todays shitty economy, then someone else is paying the difference. If not the Chinese, then our kids.
How do you interpret "lending money" btw?
They just give lent out the money for free, without interest, without any other strings attached?
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
How do you interpret "lending money" btw?
They just give lent out the money for free, without interest, without any other strings attached?
Well that is why I wrote "in the short run". And, whatever the interest is, I wish the Chinese good luck with getting their money back
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Well that is why I wrote "in the short run". And, whatever the interest is, I wish the Chinese good luck with getting their money back
In the short run, it provides the necessary guarantees to build and operate the facilities necessary to fulfill the contracts. You only need to see how far China has stepped up the past 10 years to see if this pattern has been positively profitable for them.
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