I've bought and owned around 7 Nokia phones in the past 10 years. I've had some other brands but I guess at the end, I'm fairly a loyal Nokia customer. I've waited and waited for the N900. They did do a great job with the device. But I surely didn't expect MeeGo transition, N900 being the ONLY Maemo5 device in the world, No official MeeGo support from Nokia, no Flash 10.1, pathetic OVI store, no sign/communication of official Nokia Maps voice guided navigation support which other much cheaper Nokia phones get....

Mind you, I LOVE this phone and still, there's not even a single phone I would rather have instead. Community is awesome also with some amazing apps/games/themes etc. But Nokia really needs to show their love of device to us a little more I think. I know they are doing some of it but not often enough....

Chat with nokia sweden...

http://translate.google.se/translate...-1.360340.html

you should create a seperate thread with that chat, very intersting! thanks!

he is more or less saying that ovi maps with navigation is NOT coming!

concerning flash 10:

Andrew: Hey, what about flash 10.x on an N900. Will there be the ability to run Flash 10.x on N900? If yes, when can you expect it?

Nokia: Hi, There have been many who ask it and I have had some email. In the current situation we can not answer that but we will return. Sincerely, Klas

well. when I create threads, they get out of line and end up with over 7000 posts

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Hmm, I do love my N900 but the way Nokia has treated us N900 owners, I sure as hell am not buying the next Meego or Nokia phone for that matter, purely as a matter of principle. If I want an open handset, I would probably go Android next time. Nokia didn't quite get the open source philosophy...it is not just about using your users to write code for you for free but it is also about open roadmaps and more importantly open communications. But this doesn't mean that I am abandoning my N900. Hell, I absolutely love the things this device can do and for my usage it is the most perfect device out there as of today. However that is not to say that other devices in future won't bridge this gap and currently there are two companies in my blacklist whose devices I definitely won't buy....Apple and Nokia. Used to be just Apple earlier because of their tendency to control the overall user experience but now Nokia is part of the list, for treating its customers like **** (or if they don't want to treat us like **** then for not communicating things more openly so that people don't feel like ****)
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If Nokia cannot fully support their flagship device, then what hope is there for future models, most current models are pushed on to the market far faster than the software can be fully developed, but this has been standard practice at Nokia for some time (the N80 sucked big balls initially, so did the N95, so did the N97 but they got better once updated) The N900 has now had 2 major updates, but with confirmation that no voice navigation will be forthcoming, why buy their flagship model, when lesser models get working voice navigation and a far superior Ovi maps for free....

Certainly Nokia will never capture the smartphone market like this.

And the Flash silence furthers concerns that owners of the N900 will be dumped once the first working Meego phone appears, which i would put bets on being pushed out as early as Q3 2010.

What would instill confidence in both Nokia and the new Meego OS is for Nokia to push this out to both N900 owners, and new devices this instantly show faith in the OS, and fits in with their 3 OS policy.

Primal, you'll have many folks around these parts argue that the N900 was never a "flagship device"... thus if Nokia supports it or not past it's present condition; no expectations were ever set.

Or something like that. I totally disagree with that sentiment but it seems to be somewhat prevalent as of late.

The n900 is not a flagship device but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be supported.

Nokia has a good plan with their 3 OS system. Two niche OSes and one mainstream.

The problem is not with the plan but with the execution.

The Adobe open screen project does list Arm and Nokia as partners in a project to bring Flash 10.1 to mobile devices, http://www.openscreenproject.org/par..._partners.html

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...eSheetMWC.html
Also there is a contact email of the project leader at Adobe, it might be worth an email to them, after all they did showcase flash 10 on a N900 over 6 months ago, it would be rather embarrassing for them to not release Flash 10 for a phone they showcased it on.

Embarrassing for whom? Adobe has stated that all questions should be directed to Nokia and Nokia ain't talking. And that Open Screen Project lists Nokia as a partner; no details of which OS it will be for beyond Symbian at the moment.

Again... Nokia ain't talking...