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	www.rzr.online.fr	2010-07-31 , 08:34
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What about samsung's bada platform ? only the toolchain has been released as floss

Stay tuned :
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	danramos	2010-07-31 , 08:36
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps

To my knowledge the drivers are open source from the DDK, like the key one, pvrsrvkm - there's no good reason why these should be closed source and it wonders me a bit.

Initial reaction to this is that it's just the parts they have to publish due to GPL and such and I suspect the kernel drivers have already been published in the samsung trees (excepting the closed source ones..).

So, just another vendor doing the bare minimum :/

Check out for http://opensource.samsung.com/ and 'Mobile' for other instances of the same case..

You are the man, STSKeeps.

Thanks for going above and beyond on this one. I thought you were off for the night but here you still are and hella informative! I kinda wish I could double or triple the thanks on your last post.

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	danramos	2010-07-31 , 08:40
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Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr

What about samsung's bada platform ? only the toolchain has been released as floss

Stay tuned :
http://forums.badadev.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82

Regards

What about it?
1) It seems irrelevant to the topic, the fact that Android might have a willingly open handset manufacturer is pretty big news--certainly countering the news of Motorola locking down firmware
2) It doesn't appear to be open (or even partially)
3) It doesn't appear to have the support of any kind of an alliance of manufacturers (only Samsung seems to use it)
4) The forum you linked to mainly talks about using Linux as a platform to develop FOR Bada using a virtual machine.. again, not sure I see the relevance.

Seems to me you might have posted to the wrong thread.

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	danramos	2010-07-31 , 08:50
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Hmm... while poking around, I found this:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/3...-sghi897-code/
Seems to indicate that Samsung is doing this to try leveraging the open-source community's ability to fix the bugs. Sounds like a GREAT reason to open-source, honestly. And I'm glad to see Samsung realizing that the way to get things to be improved faster, better and cheaper all at the same time is to open-source it and concentrate on their core job of producing hardware.

Man, that's refreshing.

They still have a ways to go to really realize that--but at least the motive and the direction is there.

Here's some more useful details as well as an email from Samsung's open-source folks about the opened source code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739823

Quoting from the developer in response to the email and looking over the source code:

I've verified that the kernel can be compiled using the Source Code and CodeSourcery G++ lite.

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It appears that the provided download doesn't contain the source code for all of the drivers. The pre-compiled binaries are present so building the kernel is still possible.

Another member says that they have been in contact with Samsung and that they(Samsung) intends on releasing the full driver source sometime next week. Whenever the complete source is released, I will update the links.

This might explain some of the oddness you saw in there, STSKeeps.

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	danramos	2010-07-31 , 08:56
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Here's another interesting post from the same forum site I had listed:

No, all the source files you see in there are artefacts of the build process. ``make clean'' in any of s3cbc, s3clcd, or pvrsrvkm and you're left with a Makefile and an object file.

However, I've been in communication with Samsung and have been told that the acutal source for those modules is in fact GPL'd (as indicated in the .modinfo section of the object files) and should have been released. It should be up next Monday, at least for the I9000, and hopefully for all the other Galaxy S phones as well.

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	Stskeeps	2010-07-31 , 08:58
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Originally Posted by danramos

You are the man, STSKeeps. Thanks for going above and beyond on this one. I thought you were off for the night but here you still are and hella informative! I kinda wish I could double or triple the thanks on your last post.

I'm interested in hackable devices in general, so worth an investigation.

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	danramos	2010-07-31 , 09:05
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps

I'm interested in hackable devices in general, so worth an investigation.

Same here, even if I'm not the one capable of doing the hacks--I can compile my own Linux kernel, but I don't hack at hardware very much beyond customizations. But, I always like to keep my eyes peeled for these things. If I run across them, you can be sure I'll let you know.

Thanks again for peering through the source tarballs/zips! If all goes as expected, maybe by next week we'll have one or two formerly Samsung Android devices capable of running custom Android and/or MeeGo!

FINALLY a very PC-like experience of user's choice of OS.

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	RolePlayGame	2010-07-31 , 09:25
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Originally Posted by danramos

Here's another interesting post from the same forum site I had listed:

WHOO!

Thanx danramos!
Galaxy S open! It sounds soooooo sweet!
I want to see some faces at Nokia right now.
Perhaps someone at Samsung is a Maemo.org member? If so, THANX.

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johnel	2010-07-31 , 09:40
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Sounds like an interesting development.

I assume this device has bluetooth which means you should be able to attach a bluetooth keyboard to it?
If not maybe developers can hack the source and make it possible?

What I like about my N900 is that it is the "most standard" installation of Linux compared to other mobile devices.

Android is "linux" purely by use of the kernel but everything else is "Google-ised" - e.g. their own special VM it's Java but not quite and their own glib library which means porting existing linux software is non_trivial.

At least with maemo porting linux software is considerably easier due to the use of standard components.

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