Ok, so I updated it to PR 1.2 through OTA (over the air, i.e updated it through the App Manager), and it worked fine.

I begin to restore from the backup I made, and everything restored fine and most apps restored fine, except a few that showed error messages saying i'm missing a few key components. I can't remember exactly, but most of them are missing the libqt 4.6 or something like that.

Which is strange, since that shouldn't be the problem if i' updated to PR 1.2.

So now, i dunno if i should reinstall PR 1.2 again but using Maemo Flasher or using Nokia Software Updater, i'd rather not install again coz i had to leave it on for several hours to install all that crap so i dun wanna do that again if possible.

I'm not sure if it's really the problem due to me updating PR 1.2 through OTA (even though it was successful with no errors whatsoever), or whether it's because i'm using an older Nokia N900.

Just to give a quick re-cap, basically i bought my first N900 (brand new) on April 2010 this year. I then sold it after using it for 2 months coz i couldn't justify paying $900 NZD for it, even though it's a good phone. After a month, i started to miss it a lot, so i bought it again but from a different seller, and this time is a second hand one, which i bought for $600 and still has warranty on it.

However, this one seemed different, the keyboard is smooth, compared to the first one i had which was a bit rough. APPARENTLY, people told me that the one with the rough keyboard is the newer model, whereas the smooth keyboard is the old one.


Now, i've read a lot of posts where people had defected N900s, and that they had problems with updating to PR 1.2 or have problems AFTER updating to PR 1.2, and just a lot of problems with their N900 in general etc etc. I've never had those problems on my first N900, but now that i have apparently the old model, is this the reason why i'm having this problem??


I couldn't find any documentations on the differences between these models either. The only thing i know is that the newer models come shipped with PR 1.1.1 already, and when i got this second one, it had that installed already as well. Right now, i'm asking whether the seller updated it before selling to me, or whether it came like that. But anyway, if someone can provide some documentation or changelogs regarding these 2 slightly different models, it'd be awesome.



Anyway, i need help with this. Some stuff such as Easy Debian couldn't be restored because like i mentioned already, it requires those key components.

Update:

Ok so i used Maemo Flasher to flash to the firmware and eMMC. It worked fine, but i still get the errors when installing certain files.

Anyone know what's wrong coz i have absolutely no clue. And also, one of the apps i installed correctly/successfully, called "Merge your contacts) don't show up.

It's suppose to show up under Utilities, but it's not there. I tried to find it in the options for the "Conversation" app, it's not there either. I uninstalled, and then reinstalled again but it's still not there. I remember on my first N900, it showed up under the Utilities folder so i dunno what's wrong with this one.


Lastly, i tried to restore the application list i backed up again, i.e i tried to make it restore the failed apps again, some of them actually managed to install fine after the 2nd try, but some still show the same error.

As an example, i couldn't get the app "Moodlight" to install successfully at all. It kept showing the error: "libsdl-ttf2.0(>=2.0.9) missing", i tried using the apt-get install command in X-terminal and it downloaded the required files fine but it still doesn't work....

I have never heard anything about the new vs older n900. This should however not cause you problems softwarewise..

I have not tried those programs you are talking about. But it could mean that they might not be supported on PR1.2.. i am not sure. You should try to upgrade to the latest version of the programs. Possibly enable extras-devel if necessary.

If you want any help... you will need to print out those errors you got. Otherwise it would be difficult to help.

Well, when the first batch of Nokia N900 were released, they didn't come with PR 1.1.1 firmware installed on them (coz the firmware wasn't even out at that time). Those apparently have the smoother keyboard.

Then, after a couple of months, they released what apparently is the newer model, with the PR 1.1.1 pre-installed and has the keyboard with a rougher texture.

I've used both so i can definitely tell there is a difference.



And like i said, those apps worked fine on my first N900. I've never had any of this problem at all. And my first N900 was updated to PR 1.2 already. SO ya, those apps do work with PR 1.2. Already enabled the extra-devels too......


as for the errors, there're too many, i didn't write them down. I have about 2.6GB of stuff that needs to be restored and downloaded, so i can't just go through all the failed ones and write down their app name and error message. I did however provide one, which is actually in the last paragraph of my previous comment so you couldn't have missed it....

You said you solved that one by installing it seperatly. So i didn't bother with it. You don't have to write every error down manually.. just copy/paste or attach the log.

What happens when you do it in terminal? Copy/paste the output..

no i didn't......i didn't solve it.......



If that was confusing to read then i'll summarize this in simple steps:

1. I used the "Backups" app to restore the "Application List", i.e it downloads all the apps i ever downloaded, and attempts to reinstall them. On the first run, quite a few failed to install properly, because they lack or are missing certain application packages or important components.

2. After the first run is finished, i.e after the whole process is done, I then repeated step 1 because i want to try and get the failed apps to reinstall again, hoping that they'll work again this time. SOME, managed to install fine this time, but some still failed.

3. As an example, the app "Moodlight" failed to install in both tries. It kept showing the error: "Application packages missing: libsdl-ttf2.0(>=2.0.9)".

4. I then attempted to use X-Terminal to install the "libsdl-ttf2.0" package by entering *something like this*:

sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get install libsdl-ttf2.0


*note, this isn't exactly what i entered because i forgot. I entered commands similar to this as i found it on some website which i unfortunately didn't bookmark.


As for the output, it installs successfully and didn't give me any errors, however i still couldn't install Moodlight properly.


Lastly, i can't copy and paste the errors produced by the application manager, i can only write them down, and i'll try and do that by restoring the apps for the 3rd time later on. For the X-Terminal, i can, but it didn't give me errors, it installed fine but application manager just keeps showing the same error.





*Update*:

And now, here's another weird problem. I went into Application Manager, and then "Uninstall", and there it is, the app "Moodlight" is installed already and showing in the list. I then launched the app from the Menu and it worked fine. However, whenever i try to do an update or restore application list from backup, "Moodlight" always shows it's not installed properly and always attempts to update it, which always give me the same error as i posted above.



And here're some more errors i got (all are "Application packages missing:") :

libqtm-bearer
libxslt1.1(>=1.1.1.9-1osso4+om5)
libfribidio
liblzo202

Try disabling different repositories, I forget which one cause problems for me with a python dependency.

rly?? But i don't have any 3rd party repos other than just the Maemo-Testing and Maemo-Devel ones......and i'd like to continue receive updates as well since 90% of my apps are from the Maemo-Testing repo.



I guess my big question is, has there been any major changes where ppl have had tons of problems installing apps from the past month or so till now recently?? I've only stopped using the N900 for about a month (coz i sold my first one like i mentioned before already), and bought it again just 3 days ago, so there shouldn't be any major changes in between this period.....


Also, i tested my backups on my first N900 3 times already before i sold it, and they worked fine, so it couldn't be the backups either.



UNLESS, the backups are device independent, so maybe that's why there're conflicts on this 2nd N900 i use.....

Try use the terminal as it shows better what have gone wrong.

I am not sure if this is the correct path for the log.. but if you use "leafpad /home/user/.hildon-application-manager/last-update" it should show you a log. You will need leafpad installed.

You did right by this..
sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get install libsdl-ttf2.0

But try with moodlight instead..
sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get install moodlight

Or all not upgraded..
sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

and..
apt-get autoremove

If you want to install many programs at the same time.. then just add with a space between. "apt-get install moodlight leafpad libfribidio" e.t.c.

Ok thanks, i will give that a try.

What does the "apt-get autoremove" command do?? I've seen it before so many times but unsure of what it does. And for the part, what does that do?? Upgrade everything all over again??


Anyway i will try this and provide output from Leafpad.