Active Topics
-
TLS 1.2 for N9 is ready (29)
to MeeGo / Harmattan by smatkovi - 28 mins ago -
Error after installing Leste on sdcard (12)
to Maemo 7 / Leste by teroyk - 1 hr, 15 mins ago -
Camera phone competition March 2023 "Endless" (35)
to General by Maemish - 3 days, 9 hrs ago -
Maemo repository (3)
to Community by torsen - 4 days, 2 hrs ago -
Introducing ubiboot N9 (multiboot OS loader) (1,393)
to Alternatives by smatkovi - 6 days, 6 hrs ago - more...
 |
|
2007-10-01
, 19:11
|
|
Posts: 2,669 |
Thanked: 2,555 times |
Joined on Apr 2007
|
#192
|
Originally Posted by Garage Battle
I'd rather not use apps and just use the full versions on a web browser just as I already do on the N800. We already have AIM, Yahoo and MSN, by the way.
Dear Nokia Development Team (or whom it may concern):
Most companies have mobile internet wrong. The internet is not designed for tablets, UMPC's, etc. Same thing with cell phones.
The power of portability comes in applications. I dont want to goto maps.google.com. That website expects me to me on a 1ghz+ computer with 512 ram. BUT, Google Mobile Maps application (for cell phones, PDA's) and the iPhone Google Maps application, are designed for portable usage. Same thing with the Gmail app, and the iPhone Youtube application.
So, to make this easy:
1. Port over a version of google maps for the new tablet.
2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.
3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.
4. Tabbed browsing
5. If it will have a keyboard, then it will need AIM, Yahoo IM, and MSN. At least AOL IM.
Mobile computing is done through touch. We cannot avoid the internet, but when we can take the important parts, and make them into useful applications, we all win.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 19:18
|
|
Posts: 223 |
Thanked: 38 times |
Joined on Jul 2007
@ home
|
#193
|
Originally Posted by Texrat
My wry humor may not be the best, but I try
ROFL!
Good one!
Jon
 |
|
2007-10-01
, 19:34
|
|
Posts: 381 |
Thanked: 847 times |
Joined on Jan 2007
@ Helsinki
|
#194
|
Originally Posted by Garage Battle
I'm afraid that instead of that Nokia will just launch their own (and quite probably isolated/crappy) version of these as part of the grand Ovi strategy. Why is it so difficult for companies to understand that we want to use the web services that we already use and where our friends are?
2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.
Of course, Nokia could surprise us positively, and generate a cool, mobile-friendly UI that would still let us stay in touch with the community sites we've been using all along. Flickr integration etc...
Originally Posted by Garage Battle
At this point following Apple's guidelines is most likely a safe bet. That way your mobile site will work nicely with both iPhone and the S60 browser.
3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 19:36
|
|
Posts: 631 |
Thanked: 1,123 times |
Joined on Sep 2005
@ Helsinki
|
#195
|
Originally Posted by Garage Battle
As my personal opinions:
Dear Nokia Development Team (or whom it may concern):
So, to make this easy:
1. Port over a version of google maps for the new tablet.
2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.
3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.
Mobile computing is done through touch. We cannot avoid the internet, but when we can take the important parts, and make them into useful applications, we all win.
3. is not a good idea. It's been tried in the past several times and it always eventually fails. People want "the real website", not a slimmed down version. And then, nobody wants to develop and maintain two versions of a huge website. Of course this is not black and white. A good web site detects the browser that is being used and perhaps configures its offerings (UI etc.) to better suit that target device. But "own websites" - I don't think so. Perhaps iPhone will prove me long in the short term, but I think the Internet will prove the iPhone wrong in the long term.
People want to access the real sites with the real content. Devices come and go, it is really unfeasible for developers to create custom versions for any device. Perhaps if one device would have 50% of market share, but otherwise not. 2. What would actually be a Facebook application? If not the Facebook site itself? (If not considering now the applications inside Facebook...) Or what would be a Myspace app?
And wouldn't it be obsolete once it is released? What happens when Myspace gains the next killer feature? Apps don't get new features automatically, but web sites and web services do.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 19:55
|
|
Posts: 381 |
Thanked: 847 times |
Joined on Jan 2007
@ Helsinki
|
#196
|
Originally Posted by ragnar
I would love to see social networking data from the various services I'm using (the ones that have an API at least) integrated into the address book a bit like Jaiku Mobile does on S60. You know, enhancing the address book with status information, location, travel plans, ...
2. What would actually be a Facebook application? If not the Facebook site itself? (If not considering now the applications inside Facebook...) Or what would be a Myspace app?
Then again, since the address book is just an e-d-s front-end, this should be possible to do as a separate project outside Nokia.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 21:12
|
|
Posts: 122 |
Thanked: 3 times |
Joined on Mar 2007
|
#198
|
Originally Posted by zerojay
lol honestly.
I'd rather not use apps and just use the full versions on a web browser just as I already do on the N800. We already have AIM, Yahoo and MSN, by the way.
if the n800 has the processing power of a cheap laptop, then this would be totally feasible. sad fact, it doesnt.
heres the other thing. if you are so hard up to use the full version of the site, then you will still be able to, just point the browser there. some of us are on the run, and we want our data fast, simple, and effective. my little nokia phone's google maps program runs circles around the full site on the n800. i actually prefer it 10 to 1.
and no, we dont have aim, msn, and yahoo, we have some ported/hand made version that does not have the refinement of the sidekick versions.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 21:28
|
|
Posts: 122 |
Thanked: 3 times |
Joined on Mar 2007
|
#199
|
Originally Posted by ragnar
the sad fact is, the internet is not designed for 800x480, and a slow processor/low memory situation. it is also not designed for fingers.
As my personal opinions:
3. is not a good idea. It's been tried in the past several times and it always eventually fails. People want "the real website", not a slimmed down version. And then, nobody wants to develop and maintain two versions of a huge website. Of course this is not black and white. A good web site detects the browser that is being used and perhaps configures its offerings (UI etc.) to better suit that target device. But "own websites" - I don't think so. Perhaps iPhone will prove me long in the short term, but I think the Internet will prove the iPhone wrong in the long term.
2. What would actually be a Facebook application? If not the Facebook site itself? (If not considering now the applications inside Facebook...) Or what would be a Myspace app?
And wouldn't it be obsolete once it is released? What happens when Myspace gains the next killer feature? Apps don't get new features automatically, but web sites and web services do.
sidekick, for example, just launched a myspace app for their hardware. check the vid:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7jbjZ60KipI
its important because not only is it fast, but it integrated. youtube on iphone for example:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qObhmS8zX...elated&search=
google maps mobile on a motorola q:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=98NPPptZcqE
the important thing is, you can still use those sites like normal. BUT, if you have never learned to use programs like Google Maps Mobile, you wont understand why its so important. it just works that well.
|
|
2007-10-01
, 21:30
|
|
Posts: 149 |
Thanked: 21 times |
Joined on Jun 2007
@ Germany
|
#200
|
Hopefully, this new device can play all usual video formats in native speed (http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/Ca.../MVI_0709.AVI), supports sdhc and usb-host...
And without a gaming cam like on the N800...
And without a gaming cam like on the N800...
Good one!
Nokia Developer Champion
Different <> Wrong | Listen - Judgment = Progress | People + Trust = Success
My personal site: http://texrat.net