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Wow... very honored for the personal recommendation Texrat.

Unfortunately (fortunately?), unlike what appears to be the common perception of the council around here, I don't think you guys are sitting around doing nothing.

I do believe council is actively involved and working hard.. and I unfortunately don't have the time to dedicate to something like that.

So, I must decline (I don't know if you were going to make a 'formal' one for me or not, but hopefully this will save you the trouble). But again, truly appreciate you thinking me worthy of such a position .

(Of course.. one always has to wonder if being 'nominated' by someone is a blessing, or a curse, when dealing with politics )
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Tex,
Kudos for the effort.
It would seem kind of weird to see and community council comprised of the Texrat All-Stars though.

***And please feel free to ignore my quip, as previously stated, I don't intend on voting, so my input should not be considered.***
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After a great deal of consideration, and a LOT of persuasion on the community mailing list, twitter, IRC and even the phone, I'd like to rescind my rejection and accept Texrat's nomination, if that's permitted.

I'm still very unconvinced about my usefulness to the Council, but since others seem to think I can be of value, I'm prepared to try my best if that's what people want.

Please understand, I have limited knowledge of modern business practices, though I did work for many years in organisations almost entirely run by volunteers, so have some idea how volunteer communities work. But I don't have the first clue of the modern 'business speak'.
Equally, I have no experience of coding - I can just about knock up a page of html, and that's my limit!

So what do I bring?

Enthusiasm a-plenty
Willingness to have a go - at most things, including technical stuff with a bit of support
Concern for the 'average bears' in comunity, which doesn't mean the outspoken angry people demanding stuff on principle, but people who're trying to get the best out of their device with limited tech skills.
People and communication skills - including presentation skills if you ever need them, and English language skills.
Commitment to bridging maemo and meego - and a determination that us bears of very little brain will still have our own corner in meego somewhere.

If any of that can be of use for the next 6 months, I'll stand.

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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
There are numerous people deserving nominations IMO. In addition to my colleagues on the current council, the following immediately come to mind listed in no particular order:

epage
fatalsaint
sjgadsby
yerga
pycage
anidel
zerojay
revdkathy
flandry
timoph
SD69
I had not considered this before. I haven't even been paying attention to this thread. I just saw in "Active Topics" that RevdKathy posted and was hoping it was about her running for the council

Of the various ways of contributing (greeters, bug squad, wiki, development, community affairs, etc) I've figured that my comparative advantage was in development and have focused exclusively on that.

I guess I'll give this some thought. If anyone has suggestions or info to help me make a decision, feel free to pass it on.
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There are numerous people deserving nominations IMO. In addition to my colleagues on the current council, the following immediately come to mind listed in no particular order:

epage
fatalsaint
sjgadsby
yerga
pycage
anidel
zerojay
revdkathy
flandry
timoph
SD69
Originally Posted by epage View Post
I had not considered this before. I haven't even been paying attention to this thread. I just saw in "Active Topics" that RevdKathy posted and was hoping it was about her running for the council

Of the various ways of contributing (greeters, bug squad, wiki, development, community affairs, etc) I've figured that my comparative advantage was in development and have focused exclusively on that.

I guess I'll give this some thought. If anyone has suggestions or info to help me make a decision, feel free to pass it on.
I had seen this list before but didn't notice my name for some reason. Thank you Texrat for mentioning me. Good to see RevdKathy run and who can provide a user perspective in a constructive fashion.
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Hmmm. The last few times I've tried to explain my position there I got flamed...

But I'll give it a shot.

I was taken to task for saying this would be an important term when I last ran and then recently saying we (although I should have said "I") knew it could likely be a "lame duck" term as well. I want to make clear that I held both thoughts concurrently before the last election and had indeed expressed some doubt over the council's continuation at the time. With that said, my goal was to work with the other 4 and find ways of keeping a lame duck situation from occurring. I think we were largely successful, as Jaffa has highlighted.

However, my crystal ball continues to fail. I do see a need for the council, particularly around getting Maemo opened as much as possible. But predicting the Nokia side of things has been a crap shoot.

I think the next batch of representatives need to be stubborn but open-minded. I think they'll need to pick their battles wisely. They should also communicate early to explain their individual thoughts on the council's purpose and come to a consensus on how to speak and act as a group. And to address opening Maemo, they'll need to be equal parts deep-tech guru and diplomat. We'll need people who understand the intricacies involved in opening Maemo further and who can communicate plans and possibilities clearly to Nokia. To that extent, I would certainly like to see any of the other 4 run again.

I will skip the next term as promised. However, unless something interferes, I will continue here as a moderator and will support the next council 100% in any way I can.

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You were taken to task for saying that you as well as others "knew" it was "likely" a lame duck term...

The reason you were taken to the task was because I, as well as others believed what qgil posted about it being possibly the most important council term to date. I don't believe you stated in that thread what your goals were. However, I could be mistaken.

In that thread you were defending what didn't need to be defended, the product of the council... and you were responding to a person who, from my read, had no clue and was just taking a piss poor shot.

My problem was the implications of that "lame duck" statement. Perhaps some of which are being felt now. In fact the term "Lame duck" was not even a part of this communities vocabulary until it was brought up in that thread.

***

As always, I agree and disagree with you Texrat...

Originally Posted by You
...they'll need to be equal parts deep-tech guru and diplomat.
Diplomat... yes. The issue discussed in this post is an example.

Deep-tech guru... not so much.

My understanding of what traits would be necessary of a candidate for the next council term are:

-Productive and results oriented.

-Begin to understand what role Nokia has in this community now.

-Continue developing plans to transfer that involvement to maemo.org proper or day -1

-Identify what services will be needed by members of a maemo.org minus Nokia.

-Understand those needs and the resources required to provide them and be prepared to make hard decisions pairing or cutting services that are provided now.

***

In a perfect world maemo.org day-1 will never come. By going through the above exercises though we may find a value to Nokia for this organization in the future...

Meego will be available on many manufacturers hardware. Conceivably each manufacturer will have their own MeeGo user community. With the introduction of the N9 maemo.org should morph into Nokia's MeeGo user community.

However, the emphasis will now be on user and not developer. As a result the tools that are designed, developed, and provided to these users should enable more of these users to become; 1. satisfied, and 2. possible future application developers.

Nokia wins.
Our community wins.

Why don't we at least agree to strike that fowl term (pun intended ) from our vocabulary.

BTW, I was not aware that you "promised" not to run again. Was that promise made in these forums?
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BTW, I was not aware that you "promised" not to run again. Was that promise made in these forums?
I'm not going to get entangled in continued misunderstanding and semantics over other issues, but I will answer this.

I have said many times in this forum I will only serve 2 terms consecutively, not that I wouldn't run again at all. I need a break, and want others to have an opportunity. I'm glad we had some step up at the last minute.

And just curious, why promised in quotes? That's exactly what it was, so no need for any suspicion or insinuation of anything else.
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I'm not going to get entangled in continued misunderstanding and semantics over other issues, but I will answer this.

I have said many times in this forum I will only serve 2 terms consecutively, not that I wouldn't run again at all. I need a break, and want others to have an opportunity. I'm glad we had some step up at the last minute.

And just curious, why promised in quotes? That's exactly what it was, so no need for any suspicion or insinuation of anything else.
WOW!

Dude, It was in quotes to differentiate between the statement you made in the begining of this thread vs. a specific promise you may have made in another thread or on the mailing lists that I missed...

Perhaps you do need a break.

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
...so no need for any suspicion or insinuation of anything else.
I would appreciate if you would stop changing my narrative to suite your need to find a Bogeyman. There was no suspicion or insinuation of anthing else.I ask questions in order to help avoid any of that.

...and my participation in this thread was because that "fowl" phrase reared it's ugly head again.
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There are also some from previous councils I would like to see run:

* timsamoff
vdvsx
qole
gcobb

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* timsamoff nominated himself after I posted this
(I'm not going to post this on the mailing list, sorry...)

Unlike Tim, who I'm so glad is running again this term, I'm just not in a place right now where I can devote any time to being a good council member. I think I might run for whatever elected Maemo/Meego community body is around in 6 months, because I'm honestly hoping that my life will have stabilised enough by then. Ask me again in the new year
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I think I might run for whatever elected Maemo/Meego community body is around in 6 months, because I'm honestly hoping that my life will have stabilised enough by then. Ask me again in the new year
/me puts an entry with a reference into his calendar
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