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If N9 doesn't get Dual Core Arm and more than than 512MB, more flash than 512MB then I will not get the N9.

End of story. Game Over.

If Nokia wants to make a mark in the modern smartphone computing market then Nokia has to take a dive. Apple did that with their 3GS back in 2007. The hardware was the main factor to attract geeks like us and people who would want to do things faster than waiting 10seconds for a task to load.
 

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So you want a bad OS instead of a almost top notch cpu? I do not really get your thinking here...
 

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I missed this:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
If N9 doesn't get Dual Core Arm and more than than 512MB, more flash than 512MB then I will not get the N9.
More than 512MB, sure. A9? I doubt it. I doubt anyone will have A9 based phones for some time.

Apple did that with their 3GS back in 2007. The hardware was the main factor to attract geeks like us and people who would want to do things faster than waiting 10seconds for a task to load.
Err, you sure? The 3Gs came out ~3 months before the N900 was announced and had virtually identical hardware. And no, Apple does not attract "geeks like us," they don't want us because we do things like jailbreak the devices and escape their walled garden. And sure, it's easy to load a task quick when you can only have one task running at a time.

Originally Posted by Lullen View Post
So you want a bad OS instead of a almost top notch cpu? I do not really get your thinking here...
What's a bad OS? I wouldn't say Maemo (5/6) is a bad OS, it's just not optimized for the flavor-of-the-month iPhone crowd. In terms of letting me do what I want, it has no equal.

On the other hand, an A9 backing Windows Phone 7 (or iOS) would be the biggest waste of silicon I could think of, since the OS deliberately limits what you can do with it.

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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
What's a bad OS? I wouldn't say Maemo (5/6) is a bad OS, it's just not optimized for the flavor-of-the-month iPhone crowd. In terms of letting me do what I want, it has no equal.
Agreed.

Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
On the other hand, an A9 backing Windows Phone 7 (or iOS) would be the biggest waste of silicon I could think of
Yeah, I completely agree with this, too!
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Antilles already explained this.

SDXC opted for Microsoft's proprietary ExFAT as default filesystem, so devices with which you can use a SDXC card have to support r/w support for ExFAT. Only then do they support the SDXC standard.

Hence, if you just keep your card inside your 'N9' and its formatted say Ext3FS nothing is wrong. If you stick the card in your Linux laptop it will also work. But when you stick it in anything else (a digital camera, a Windows machine, a Mac machine) it won't work since these devices cannot read/write Ext3FS.

Theres some hope here 'n there tho

(Source)

Unfortunately a lousy solution since it all won't work by default which equals to the consumer won't eat our dogfood but will eat Microsoft's proprietary ExFAT crap.
Just to clarify a bit,
many of us would hope the sd card, be it hc or xc,
would be mostly useful only as a permanent local storage
rather than for swapping in and out for transferring data.
(I thought that's why they invented wifi/bluetooth/usb ports )
This is only reasonable, of course, if the USB functionality exists
for external storage requirements. (which n900 lacks)

The inability to (casually) use it in a m$ environment I regard as a
highly desirable security feature
- No one could simply pop the
sd card out and read it in their wincrap device.
I would probably (as suggested here) format ext3 and only ever plan on
popping it into my other linux machines on the rare occasion of firing up a new test-boot system or cleanup...

Last edited by theonelaw; 2010-10-07 at 01:16. Reason: Punctuation
 
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#146
Originally Posted by wmarone View Post

What's a bad OS? I wouldn't say Maemo (5/6) is a bad OS, it's just not optimized for the flavor-of-the-month iPhone crowd. In terms of letting me do what I want, it has no equal.
I ment does he really want android(bad os) instead of a almost top notch cpu(1Ghz A8). I have tried android a few times and I can not understand why it is sooooo much better then symbian. Maemo6 vs android is like comparing win98 to win7 (with the assumption that maemo6 is like maemo5 but less laggy and better phone stuff)
 
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Originally Posted by theonelaw View Post
Just to clarify a bit,
many of us would hope the sd card, be it hc or xc,
would be mostly useful only as a permanent local storage
rather than for swapping in and out for transferring data.
It's worth remembering that when plugging the device into a host PC and mounting the internal storage as a Mass Storage Class device, the host OS will need to understand the filesystem on the card. So the filesystem isn't only of importance to internal mobile device operations.
 
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Originally Posted by jcompagner View Post
this is not true, conky or other process managers are showing the cpu usage when i notice it is very busy. So for me it is really the cpu where i wait for.

Just use FeedingIt rss feeder, let it sync all the feeds. And then start doing something else. It is just crunching the cpu.

The WA value is "Cpu is idle because it's waiting on IO to deliver data or code to execute". So it should be treated as idle for this purpose.

Of course, if one process is executing something small at 100%, you wont notice the WA value going up. In that case, something like top running over ssh with 1s refresh to your pc's display and checking that display for processes with "D" in their status column finds all the processes stuck waiting on IO..
 
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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
It's worth remembering that when plugging the device into a host PC and mounting the internal storage as a Mass Storage Class device, the host OS will need to understand the filesystem on the card. So the filesystem isn't only of importance to internal mobile device operations.
Even though other OSes can achieve read-only support of Ext2FS/Ext3FS these drivers aren't installed by default on Windows and many other devices. Also note Ext3FS is a journaling FS. This might not be desirable on a SD card.
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