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2010-10-07
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#1312
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Originally Posted by m0da
He could, as he was given the file under license via TI as a demo. Hundreds of requests flooding in for it that are easily traced back to a thread like this will probably only result in them taking the request form down.
In any case, if it's perfectly legal to place that file under maemo (as he just did in his pictures), then it must be legal for us to do the same in the future! Rejoice TMO!
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2010-10-07
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#1313
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Really?
7. If you link to a place where the plugin is downloadable or distribute it here or upload it is copyright infringement and will most likely get you and any downloaders banned from this forum.
So now downloading something that some random Nokia employee does not like is a reason to ban someone from this forum? It seems like Nokia forgot to include this in the ridiculous forum rules a few months ago.
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"N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan" Is the new "Mer is Fremantle for N810".
No more Nokia devices for me.
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"N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan" Is the new "Mer is Fremantle for N810".
No more Nokia devices for me.
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2010-10-07
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#1314
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Originally Posted by Matan
Hey, let's just go misconstruing things people say and taking everything absolutely literally. It'll really help people understand things.
Really?
So now downloading something that some random Nokia employee does not like is a reason to ban someone from this forum?
You know that no one can confirm if anyone downloaded something via a link on this board.
It seems like Nokia forgot to include this in the ridiculous forum rules a few months ago.
Anyway, do you have a useful point to make or were you just attacking something Stskeeps said that has no impact on the greater topic at hand?
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2010-10-07
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#1315
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Originally Posted by Matan
Uhm, I'm not a Nokia employee but thanks for thinking I was.. And I'm no moderator either, but:
Really?
So now downloading something that some random Nokia employee does not like is a reason to ban someone from this forum? It seems like Nokia forgot to include this in the ridiculous forum rules a few months ago.
From http://talk.maemo.org/faq.php?faq=vb...q_tmorulestext :
Infraction points will be given for misbehavior in public forum communications as well as for attacking other members in any other way within maemo.org, if it is reported. The following are the assigned infraction points for specific violations:
Illegal Activity/Content - 20
Last edited by Stskeeps; 2010-10-07 at 19:15.
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2010-10-07
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#1316
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Proof that it works is good enough for me. Not surprised, but now it just begs to be answered... who do we ask for it to be released, even in an unsupported version.
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2010-10-07
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#1317
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Originally Posted by Matan
0) Stskeeps is not a Nokia employee (even if he does subcontract.)
Really?
So now downloading something that some random Nokia employee does not like is a reason to ban someone from this forum? It seems like Nokia forgot to include this in the ridiculous forum rules a few months ago.
1) Nokia didn't set the new forum rules, they were set in discussion with the community here, as far as I recall.
2) Nokia no longer run maemo.org.
3) Stskeeps isn't a moderator here, meaning he couldn't ban people, he was merely adding a disclaimer, not too far off the lines of "it isn't my fault if this makes your device explode and insert pieces of metal into your brain".
I don't see what is wrong with a disclaimer, even if they may not be right on the money. It makes people consider their actions, and think twice. They're still completely free to disregard them, if they want.
Now, end of thread hijack.
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2010-10-07
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#1318
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
So essentially we are in the same place we were before you got this particular item. Waiting on either Nokia or Adobe to provide us with the lib. I think we have seen where that kind of thing gets us.
Speaking of riots, am getting a lot of private messages about this thing. Please don't send me messages about this thing.
1. No, I won't share it. It's against the license I got it under from TI (see cfh11's post above) and I evaluated if this worked on Maemo and MeeGo N900 and well, it did and decently.
2. Please answer truthfully to the TI.com questions and you might or might not get approved. If you start flooding them with garbage, offers like this might not happen again and you'd have ruined it for everyone else.
3. Read CAREFULLY the EULA if you do get access as the exact same terms could be brought against you in court if you distribute the flash player to others.
4. The flash player code might actually be marked with something uniquely identifying you.
5. And no, this code isn't from Maemo, MeeGo or Nokia. The way I got it was described in cfh11's post above.
6. It is to my best belief the real thing. Not a Flash 9 modified with another version number.
7. If you link to a place where the plugin is downloadable or distribute it here or upload it is copyright infringement and could most likely get you and any downloaders banned from this forum.
If you want things to change, petition Adobe, as customers to equal mobile Linux computers like N900 to laptops and netbooks on X86 and provide click-to-download versions for MeeGo ARM in the future like on X86. That's real change.
All this has done is proven that flash 10 is possible on the N900, but for some reason we are not deemed worthy of it.
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2010-10-07
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#1319
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Fun thing actually, I was reading up on Flash licensing the other day even for X86 - it seems like if you even run it on anything other than non-standard Windows (no idea about Linux licensing), in any kind of mobile or embedded setting your normal license won't work (click to download one)..
Proof that it works is good enough for me. Not surprised, but now it just begs to be answered... who do we ask for it to be released, even in an unsupported version.
IE, there's big licensing costs to even put it on something resembling a mobile device.
I don't know who to ask but I do hope that having a stable point of reference to build for like MeeGo on ARM and Android or even Ubuntu on ARM will make Adobe provide click-to-download for these for personal usage..
But given there's $$$ in mobile devices and embedded devices licenses for Adobe...
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2010-10-07
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Originally Posted by Bratag
Yep. Sucks. And worse... I don't know who to really even be mad at. Adobe did the work, they showed the beta, didn't release it to the public. Nokia didn't make the announcements, but it does exist, haven't given it to us... yet it works.
All this has done is proven that flash 10 is possible on the N900, but for some reason we are not deemed worthy of it.
Whole lot of wrong in that above paragraph.
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In any case, if it's perfectly legal to place that file under maemo (as he just did in his pictures), then it must be legal for us to do the same in the future! Rejoice TMO!