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2010-10-21 , 18:24
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#61
Since I'm not currently planning to follow Nokia after the N900, I guess that the more delay the better as far as I'm concerned. HOORAY! The N900 is still King of the Hill!
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2010-10-21 , 18:34
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Originally Posted by shady View Post
i hope it doesnt end up like a pre, or some other cookie cutter smartphone ... i want a computer with linux in my pocket.

new nokia dont **** up a good thing. this has me scared that they will try to emulate the other companies out there. oh man, i guess the n900 was the last of the truly open devices ... next up meego the pre/droid clone. ughh so disheartened none of this bodes well for the tweakers, i fear some locks coming for no apparent reason. aww man, this is what i get for hoping that one company would provide a device thats usable ... the rest of the noise out there holds no interest for me. eff this mess, show me the N9 ill let you know if ill wait for it. dont make me wait, then the specs arent that good, then i have to continue waiting for a device thats worth purchasing.
Remember that MeeGo is even more open than Maemo at its core. Any vendor/enterprising dev is free to develop their own UI and differentiations. So if the vanilla version looks a little too much like Android/Palm/iOS for most peoples' tastes, I'm sure there will be other options.

There is also a (paid) project underway to integrate GTK+ and MeeGo, so I think it will be entirely possible to eventually put the same old Maemo 5 UI on top of the MeeGo core if that floats your boat.
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2010-10-21 , 18:38
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Originally Posted by OVK View Post
I am just wondering if Elop speaks about "real" MeeGo or Harmattan.
Indeed. If he really killed Harmattan I'm beyond words, but maybe that could explain why Ari left?
 

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2010-10-21 , 18:38
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Wait continues.
Yeah, why release during holiday sales season and unfairly take sales away from your competition.
 

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2010-10-21 , 18:39
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I can still hope that Symbian will cease to exist. Sucks that people had to be let go but if you have that many people working on it and it's still a mess.... then it's time to fire some people.
 
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2010-10-21 , 18:41
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
I'm not sure what state MeeGo will be in in Q1/2011 - but you bet I would not, never, under no circumstances, make my next flagship phone depend on it being ready then. Whatever runs on a Q1/2011-phone should be very close to production quality today so developers can test test test test and bugfix bugfix bugfix wontfix.
The Meego 1.2 will not be released until april 2011 and we probadly should not expect Meego Handset is stable for the masses until then.

I am sorry too say this too people here, but if we take a look in the mailinglists and preveiws it is far from ready atm....

But this doesnt mean geeks should test it cause we should and also start make QT apps that works both on Symbian/Maemo and Meego instead of Gtk IMHO.:-)

I think we will see alot of progress and improvements on Meego for N900 in some months but release a N9 in this state would kill nokia it must be a killer OS before it gets released.
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2010-10-21 , 18:44
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Yes, please stop freaking out on the internet. Go knee jerk in private. It's almost November, and Nokia has had a major shakeup with top level insertions from Microsoft and Palm. How big of a surprise is this? I think it's a good thing: Total outsiders who now have lots of power have probably made some objective assessments, and with those assessments came some recommendations. Starting with "Full stop, as of this moment, Qt [Mobility] will be on top of everything not in production." Cool.

People have been saying that Nokia needed to focus, well, there's some focus. This should have happened before the N97 launch, but better late than never.

Unix is here to stay. What open/closed forms it will take is still being written. Take deep breaths; just sit back and watch Microsoft throw chairs and tell you to put your devices down and go outside and play.

For all we know, Qt could be an WM 7, Android, iOS doomsday virus.
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2010-10-21 , 18:47
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Originally Posted by aikon800 View Post
I don't know why anybody even thinks of Harmattan is any different then Meego,
Just a few reasons why it doesn't qualify to even be describe itself as MeeGo:
  • deb instead of rpm packaging
  • busybox ash instead of bash as /bin/sh
  • busybox instead of coreutils etc
  • no connman(?)
 

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2010-10-21 , 18:49
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
So everyone in the market for a pocketable smarty^H^H^H^Hmobile computer should RESEARCH it thoroughly first and find out if rhey are smrt enough to own a n900..
Sarcasm aside... I question the wisdom of anyone who impulse-buys this sort of product. And this forum has been swamped by them.
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2010-10-21 , 19:03
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Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Did Nokia really have "at least" 600 developers working on Symbian based code (core, client apps etc)??

If so, WTF were they doing the last 3 years? They must have some serious 9am to 4pm plus Fridays off over in Finland because that's a HUGE number of devs for an OS that still looks and feels 2007.

That many people which results in only a "tweaked" UI layout? Luckily they were fired and not moved to work on Meego
And you are a developer yourself or what?
 
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