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2010-10-23 , 20:17
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Originally Posted by jussi69 View Post
Shows me how much he appreciated us!
Or maybe how much Nokia appreciated him? Or do you have any insight into his personal reason for leaving?
 

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2010-10-24 , 09:40
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Anyone who thinks Ari Jaaksi didn't care or wasn't passionate enough about Maemo should go read his blog from the beginning.

We'll probably never know the exact circumstances of his leaving. Maybe he clashed with Mr Elop, maybe he was unhappy with Mr Kallasvuo's exit, maybe there were some changes in the MeeGo program that he couldn't live with. maybe he decided that Qt phones are too far removed from his original vision of GNOME pocket computers, maybe a combination of some of the above or none of them. (Or maybe he didn't like people misspelling his name ;-) )

Note however that people at that level tend to have quite long notice periods in their contracts suggesting that either Nokia didn't want him or he decided to leave many months ago and it was just made public now. Either way, it's Nokia's loss.

I'm very grateful to Mr Jaaksi for overseeing the making of 3 truly wonderful machines, wish him good luck at HP and look forward to seeing what he comes up with there.
 

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2010-10-24 , 09:47
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No he don't
 
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2010-10-24 , 09:54
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Originally Posted by AMLJ View Post
I kinda agree with jussie on this... Maemo is a Debian-based distro, which has been named Maemo... But I don't know if he has contributed anything or not..
But what about all that closed-source that made Maemo soooo much better than Debian, right? Right?

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The OP was trying to imply that Maemo was some existing distro that was just basically renamed.

Again, he/she/it doesn't know what the fvck they're talking about.

Don't encourage failure.
Just like Fedora and SuSE are just existing distros that was just basically renamed? Ahem. No. Maemo is in fact a distro.. it's based on Debian with a bunch of closed-source crap dumped on top of it. Thank God Maemo is dead. Long live MeeGo!
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2010-10-24 , 10:08
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
.... it's based on Debian with a bunch of closed-source crap dumped on top of it. Thank God Maemo is dead. Long live MeeGo!
Oh c'mon, yes meego core will be open source, but we will NEVER see an fully open sourced product based on true 100% open source that is fully functional product.

I have never seen a fully functional Linux PC without some drivers that are closed.

I Have never seen a fully functional smartphone were the drivers is 100% open.

IMHO I prefer a phone that may have some closed drivers/apps than a phone that is 100% open sourced and halfbaked. Cause if Meego hardware is 100% open then it for sure it will fail. WeeTab is already and example of this. They release a halfbaked product and hopes opensource gurus will "fix the bugs" then people will comeback and complain about a crap product.

I mean all that whining here about flash 10.1 on N900. Is flash open? Accelerated open source SGL drivers etc... Do u think TI will open this fully I dont, Also in the case oif Nokia battery management...

Only OSS fanatics like Stallman may think is possible but this is not how the world looks like...
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2010-10-24 , 10:12
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#26
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Oh c'mon, yes meego core will be open source, but we will NEVER see an fully open sourced product based on true 100% open source that is fully functional product.

I have never seen a fully functional Linux PC without some drivers that are closed.

I Have never seen a fully functional smartphone were the drivers is 100% open.

Only OSS fanatics like Stallman may think is possible but this is not how the world looks like...
Myesssss... but what about a large number of closed APPLICATIONS? Calendar? Media player? It was FAR worse in DiaBLOW, not much better (I think I'd read it was worse, actually?) in FreMENTAL.

Also... OH C'MON!! heheh Love that reaction.
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2010-10-24 , 10:22
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Myesssss... but what about a large number of closed APPLICATIONS? Calendar? Media player? It was FAR worse in DiaBLOW, not much better (I think I'd read it was worse, actually?) in FreMENTAL.

Also... OH C'MON!! heheh Love that reaction.
Yes There are stuff that I agree that should be opened sourced.

But I think it could be related to that some stuff is made by people who is "not so open minded" or ever by some external nonnokia consults?
 
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2010-10-24 , 10:30
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Yes There are stuff that I agree that should be opened sourced.

But I think it could be related to that some stuff is made by people who is "not so open minded" or ever by some external nonnokia consults?
I'm not sure I understood your last sentence. Can you rephrase that?
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2010-10-24 , 10:37
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tomorrow we will wake-up and notice that : Nokia shut down.
loooooooooool
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
WeeTab is already and example of this. They release a halfbaked product and hopes opensource gurus will "fix the bugs" then people will comeback and complain about a crap product.
That's not quite true. It's called WeTab, not WeeTab, and it's not 100% open. Unlike Nokia, the WeTab developers are working on enhancing the OS.
Yes, it was halfbaked when it came to market, but so was the N900.
But after several firmware updates within weeks, the WeTab is in a really good state, and we have Multitouch gestures, a great onscreen keyboard, hardware-accelerated HD video playback, and already a beta preview of Android support.
In fact, I'm writing these lines on a WeTab 3G and I like it.
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