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Originally Posted by carlon

I think what bakry2003 is trying to convey is the day to usefulness of a cross platform im app such as cnectd and whatsapp, because they are data oriented apps and data plans tend to be cheaper than calling and sms plans(at least in Venezuela).

I'm aware that nokia has the ovi contacts app...

...the smart phone market these days is no longer limited to a few brands and everyone has their preference of OS. With that said, what these (cnectd and whatsapp) apps are trying to do is to integrate the different MOBILE OS on to one unified app, they both already support andriod,symbian,blackberry and apple.

One may argue that msn already does that but i think we both know that msn isn't optimized for mobile phones, the compression is far from great which leads to high data consumption, and that defeats the whole purpose.

I know it's not up to maemo developers to port this app due to the fact that its closed source, but i think we have a loud enough voice to persuade apple to develop a maemo version

Originally Posted by afaq

N900 has a well embedded, high functioning IM capability. Why does anyone need a 3rd Part app?

Originally Posted by leetut

Because whatsapp is awesome,
Maybe even a thousand times better than any IM app on the n900
I use it on my galaxy tab, but I doubt the developers of the app have even heard of the n900!

Originally Posted by carlon

Hi uvatbc,

I'm aware that nokia has the ovi contacts app which i think is an excellent app although its not quite as good as bbm(at least not for the s60v3) its very useful, however, the smart phone market these days is no longer limited to a few brands and everyone has their preference of OS. With that said, what these (cnectd and whatsapp) apps are trying to do is to integrate the different MOBILE OS on to one unified app, they both already support andriod,symbian,blackberry and apple.

Originally Posted by carlon

The ovi chat isn't available for the n900

Originally Posted by sjgadsby

How so? I've had Ovi Chat installed and working on my N900 since October of 2009.

Originally Posted by buchanmilne

My requirements for IM protocols are:
-Must be available on PC platforms (including desktop Linux), for communicating with people who don't have smartphones but have PCs, or for when I want to type on a full-size keyboard
-Must be supported on other smartphones
-Should be open to interoperation with other providers
-Preferably based on an open standard protocol

The ones available out-the-box on Nokia N900 are:
-GoogleTalk (XMPP)
-Facebook chat (XMPP)
-Generic Jabber (XMPP)
-Ovi (apparently XMPP)
-XMPP over bonjour
-SIP
-Skype

These all qualify on most of the requirements, and I have all of these (except SIP at present) active on my N900.

Now, I have been using these systems for communicating with friends/contacts for *years*. Just because I have a smartphone, doesn't mean I need new IM accounts. I use the ones I have used for years.

I have used Jabber on Nokia phones since MobileMessenger for Nokia 6600 (Series60 v1) over GPRS (no 3G back then).

Note: If you install more packages from extras, you will get the following protocols in the Nokia messaging app:
-AIM
-GaduGadu
-Groupwise
-ICQ
-MSN
-QQ
-Sametime
-Yahoo

(I don't use any of these, so I am not sure if they worked, still work etc.)

Just recommend XMPP-capable apps to your friends, they will be freed of platform-specific IM, and be free to IM anyone on any platform without relying on a specific provider.

N900 is IMHO one of the *best* phones, because of the out-the-box integration of instant messaging by standards-based protocols.

Another locked-in IM application is a waste for every platform IMHO.

Whatsapp apparently seems to use XMPP, but, if it doesn't provide easy means of adding users on other XMPP servers, it misses the majority of the point of XMPP. The fact that they don't mention XMPP, Jabber, Facebook chat, GoogleTalk etc. on their FAQ means their focus is (IMHO) wrong.

If it *does* support adding users on other XMPP servers (IOW, has s2s open), then, you don't need the Whatsapp app, sign up for an account, and add it to your N900 as a Jabber account, but you need the correct details).

However, if it *did* support XMPP s2s, then (guessing) _xmpp-server._tcp.whatsapp.com SRV record should be published, but it is not:

Code:

$ dig +short _xmpp-server._tcp.whatsapp.com SRV
$

vs Google:

Code:

$ dig +short _xmpp-server._tcp.google.com SRV
20 0 5269 xmpp-server2.l.google.com.
20 0 5269 xmpp-server3.l.google.com.
20 0 5269 xmpp-server4.l.google.com.
5 0 5269 xmpp-server.l.google.com.
20 0 5269 xmpp-server1.l.google.com.

So, no thanks, I don't need inferior, closed instant messaging. That's so 20th century.

Originally Posted by bakry2003

if whatsapp works with xmpp server how can i make it run on jabber?