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#31
Didn't convert, but did have an amazed french guy ask me 'what console is that' as i played tony hawk 4 using a ps3 controller hilst sat waiting for a train...
 
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#32
It should also be also that you are preaching your own mantra with zero objectivity to the real situation.

The existance of preenv and playstation emulators(which impresses the pants off of the majority of people) makes HUGE difference
Most real gamers don't like the 2 minute style iphone games.
My iPhone owning friends mostly play gameloft style of games which are available via preenv anyway(oh yea, on OUR unsupported platform)

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Not 100% true. It's basically a method for you to play another OS's games on your non-supported phone. It's not the same given the fact that you will not buy those games via the OVI Store.



It still sucks. Over and over I've stated my dislike for emulators - thus my usage of the word "modern" and the fact that I've never paid for the frequently updated Angry Birds on my Android Phone and only 99 cents (one-time fee) on my iPhone and yet folks have had to pay for each update for the N900 isn't exactly fair nor has that come up in this thread.

It should.

It's not the same across the board by a long shot. And if I wanted... let's say Cut the Rope or Street Fighter IV or one of the Need for Speed games, can I get it for the N900? No... I'll have to wait for a game to either get ported, come out in an approximate version or just play the umpteenth version of Sudoku or some game from 1992.

I don't call that modern nor all that fun. I've already played those games on my SNES or Sega Genesis (Mega Drive for the rest of the world) as well as my Neo-Geo and Sega Dreamcast... and Playstation and even TurboGrafx - on a much bigger screen and with my friends... legally.



The Linux ported games are... horribly boring for the most part.... Tux Racer excluded perhaps.

The lack of gaming on Maemo is pretty obvious if you look at a typical customer's point of view. If you want more games, you have to either emulate (old ****), install Easy Debian (and play those games, some are unoptimized) or find games that may/may not run due to dependencies.

No exaggeration necessary. Modern gaming, combined with the overall lack of social gaming platforms - OpenFeint, Crystal for instance - it's a sad situation that never was addressed.

Gaming, lack of a proper PIM, wonky methods to create playlists (DoubleTwist is a much better option) and other issues plague the N900. Sure, you can hack the everliving **** out of it; but hack what in the end? Is it worth it that you might miss a phone call whilst hacking your phone?

Perhaps that's just me. Either way, make sure that whatever phone you do buy, works for you. If you convince another person, they either see what you saw in that platform or they were just that easy to convince.

And I'm still selling a bridge for those types of folks...
 
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Originally Posted by Daneel View Post
It should also be also that you are preaching your own mantra with zero objectivity to the real situation.
So... let's answer this: Does Nokia sell WebOS games?

The existance of preenv and playstation emulators(which impresses the pants off of the majority of people) makes HUGE difference
Not to me. Perhaps to you. Please don't project. I'm trying not to - notice my verbiage. I kept it rather egocentric on purpose.

Most real gamers don't like the 2 minute style iphone games.
Most real gamers rather play on televisions or screens bigger than 3.5 inches via modern gaming systems or capable computers - and let's put it out there, WebOS isn't exactly the strongest mobile gaming platform out there. So to go upstream to one of the weakest gaming platforms is quite telling.

My iPhone owning friends mostly play gameloft style of games which are available via preenv anyway(oh yea, on OUR unsupported platform)
Glad to hear that. Again, I'd love to hear where you're obtaining these Gameloft games. I'm sure they'd love to hear that too if it's not directly from them. If it is, kudos. I'm sure they appreciate that purchase from you.
 
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Originally Posted by zdanee View Post
So did you convert anyone?

Nope. Why would I subject anyone to torture?

Let your friend use the brick for a few weeks and then let's see what he has to say. He/she will be throwing the N900 against the wall and pulling hair in frustration.

Good luck.
 
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Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge View Post
Criticise.

Criticism.
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#36
I lost my reply because of a unlucky backspace and IE(The japanese company where i work at right now uses a weak vista configuration for the client PCs)

Anywho, big chunk of software on my n900 doesn't come from the OVI repo.

If i had the option i'd always play on a big screen TV with the console of choice but when i go snowboarding with my friends the N900 is gold for them.

I've tried only 2 preenv games on my N900, N.O.V.A and Asphalt.
I have both on my Pre.
I don't see the relevance of piracy in this discussion though.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
So... let's answer this: Does Nokia sell WebOS games?



Not to me. Perhaps to you. Please don't project. I'm trying not to - notice my verbiage. I kept it rather egocentric on purpose.



Most real gamers rather play on televisions or screens bigger than 3.5 inches via modern gaming systems or capable computers - and let's put it out there, WebOS isn't exactly the strongest mobile gaming platform out there. So to go upstream to one of the weakest gaming platforms is quite telling.



Glad to hear that. Again, I'd love to hear where you're obtaining these Gameloft games. I'm sure they'd love to hear that too if it's not directly from them. If it is, kudos. I'm sure they appreciate that purchase from you.
 
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Originally Posted by Daneel View Post
Anywho, big chunk of software on my n900 doesn't come from the OVI repo.
Thanks for at least answering that question. If it doesn't come from the OVI store, then it has to come from somewhere. If it doesn't come from the store... then where?

The problem is, that you're seemingly unwilling to answer is that basically... if you want modern games on the N900; you have to look elsewhere.

That was the point I was making.

If i had the option i'd always play on a big screen TV with the console of choice but when i go snowboarding with my friends the N900 is gold for them.
My Samsung Captivate was the big hit this last trip. So we differ.

I've tried only 2 preenv games on my N900, N.O.V.A and Asphalt.
I have both on my Pre.
I don't see the relevance of piracy in this discussion though.
It is very relevant. To play games that you'd like - even the aforesaid games you currently play - on the N900, you have to find a way to play them.

Not just purchase them, you have to locate them and then find a way to make them work. Thus, my original statement stands... if you want modern games on the N900 you have to look elsewhere.
 
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#38
I let a graphic artist friend of mine try "MyPaint" for 15 minutes and he had one on order before I left his house! He had owned an iphone4 for just over 6 weeks.

My partner (who gets her phones paid for by her boss) tried an HTC but ended up with an iPhone 4. She ended up Using my N900 to do her emails and conduct her web searches while we were in Mexico, because she was frustrated by spotty connectivity in our hotel room, the auto-correct "feature" and her difficulties with going back to previous web pages in the browser......she almost tossed it into the Caribbean out of frustration.

This was ironic considering she is such luddite and the N900 is considered a nerdy phone by some of the users here.
 

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#39
My point was that the n900 has a gaming experience is not so grim as some people here try to paint it to be.
Yes, Android/iPhone experience might be better(i don't agree since playing games with a keyboard or a keypad is the only way to play games for me).
Yes, it might be more difficult to get access to a big portion of the N900 gaming experience when compared to Apple/Android universal app store but lets face it, as phones get more advanced, so do their users.

The N900 is quite good for my gaming needs and I have a long history of gaming - from attending Quake1/3 tournaments, making Quake Defrag videos, Starcraft tournaments and also successfully dabbling in the plague - World of Warcraft.
I suspect quite a few people who use the device feel the same way.


Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Thanks for at least answering that question. If it doesn't come from the OVI store, then it has to come from somewhere. If it doesn't come from the store... then where?

The problem is, that you're seemingly unwilling to answer is that basically... if you want modern games on the N900; you have to look elsewhere.

That was the point I was making.



My Samsung Captivate was the big hit this last trip. So we differ.



It is very relevant. To play games that you'd like - even the aforesaid games you currently play - on the N900, you have to find a way to play them.

Not just purchase them, you have to locate them and then find a way to make them work. Thus, my original statement stands... if you want modern games on the N900 you have to look elsewhere.
 
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If you ask me, Nokia has converted a sh*tload of maemo users to other platform (Android, iOS, WebOS, etc) with their quick one-two punch of discontinuing maemo and exiting MeeGo development.
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