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2009-08-11 , 18:50
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#171
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
But if you're just moving from Mom/Dad's plan to your own, it's highly doubtful you'd buy a N97 (or like priced cellphone) off-contract/unlocked.
You might be amazed at what deals one can find on the grey market.
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#172
Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
I'm surprised more isn't being said about the "NSeries" branding.
Well, it's nothing different that the Nseries brand on the back cover on the N810.
 

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2009-08-11 , 20:59
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Originally Posted by fms View Post
No. I have just demonstrated to you the list of current devices N900 is going to compete against. The iPhone was not on that list. As to your perceived "pitfalls", I suggest you come up with some examples to support your point of view. Your examples preferably should not include iPhone, just to prevent you from more fanboyism. Thank you in advance.
I'm with you dude. What ever market that was there for iPhones has been filled by iPhones. A good deal of initial sales were to previous owners of Motorola Razors. Another fashion phone.
Productivity was not on the top of these peoples list of priorities. It still isn't. If it were there would be an outcry for multi-tasking from current iPhone owners.

There isn't because it's better to look good than to feel good. When you're talking on an iPhone or single handed thumb texting as you breese through an airport you look marvelous...
Standing off to the side two handed texting in landscape mode while holding your carry-on bag between your knees, not so much.

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2009-08-11 , 21:52
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#174
Originally Posted by eiffel View Post
The reason given was that "everyone knows that Symbian is the future for Nokia". In this forum we're having trouble making sense of that reason.
Nokia have stated that the preferred way of developing symbian apps is to use qt. hopefully if that becomes the defacto standard and all the best symbian apps are converted over, hopefully we'll get a good selection of apps to run on qt/maemo.
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2009-08-11 , 22:02
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#175
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
It's not as much the browser not good enough, but also the web not developing better mobile specific sites. Surfing a site in its desktop native version is nice and all but a mobile customized one is more efficient and can be tailored.
where I work we've had to put some gifted people into the process of automating analysis of websites to see if they're small-screen friendly (iphone, smartphone etc), and even then it's hit and miss and needs live humans to review the results.

there are far too many organisations which think a simple custom CSS style, or a custom skin for a forum, wiki etc, is sufficient to make it mobile friendly.

however, it is getting better. I've seen the stats.
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#176
Originally Posted by speculatrix View Post
where I work we've had to put some gifted people into the process of automating analysis of websites to see if they're small-screen friendly (iphone, smartphone etc), and even then it's hit and miss and needs live humans to review the results.

there are far too many organisations which think a simple custom CSS style, or a custom skin for a forum, wiki etc, is sufficient to make it mobile friendly.

however, it is getting better. I've seen the stats.
Hire some Human Factor or HCI Psychologists/Engineers. =P
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2009-08-11 , 22:28
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#177
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
How normal do you think that is that people don't have a contract in the US? The PAYG crowd are a minority in the US.

And despite having an iPhone, I didn't commit to a 2 year contract either - but I have an inside connection, so I'm not normal either.
PAYG in USA is not the same as PAYG in UK - they're at least 5 years behind UK in the business model. We in UK have non-expiring credit, usually flat rate call charges, free voicemail, with good 3G coverage. You can even buy a day's 3G data usage for reasonable price!

In USA the last time I visited I bought a T-Mobe sim where credit expired, the cost of calls varied according to how much credit you bought, data charges weren't cheap.

Also, of course, in USA to pay to receive calls and you get a regular number, in UK the caller pays and knows it's a mobile call because the number is clearly different; receiving calls is free as is receiving SMS.
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#178
Originally Posted by pelago View Post
Well, it's nothing different that the Nseries brand on the back cover on the N810.
Coming from an N800 that doesn't have it I didn't think to look when I got an N810.

You're right it sure is there. Cool! Where are all the apps and the exclusive Nokia Nseries content.??
 

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#179
Originally Posted by speculatrix View Post
and all the best symbian apps are converted over
It shouldn't take long to convert both of them.
 

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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
It shouldn't take long to convert both of them.
We already have a real putty (and it's kinda redundant on maemo anyway), but what's the other one?
 
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