Thanks for the monumental effort. Don't give up. Lots are interested, it's just that the new Diablo update killed everyone's dual boot, KDE, Debian, etc... Once they all including me get it sorted out we will join in. I did manage to move all my easy Debian apps to a new menu I call Debian(see screen shot below). I did it with the advise everyone on Debian team has given me. Now once I get my rotation, mmc speed and KDE loaded and put into it's own menu I can begin gnome Debian and then your KDE(hopefully V4 ). TIAAttachment 2317

You really wanna try V4 KDE?? It runs pretty horribly when I am booted into it... I can't imagine what it'll run like in the chroot setup...

Dan: please, where can I get the 'screenshoted' theme? (http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...1&d=1218862037)

bubacoo,
I started with Nuvoclear 2 and added Munky261 taskbar icons(see show off your screenshots at http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=5014&page=71, then I went into settings >control panel >panels>applications organize. Getting the apps into your own menu is hard because you have to configure each app to go into your specific menu. My next goal is to get the menu see through so I can see the background image and have the menus float in front of image.

fatalsaint yeah I do. I'm sure you and Qole and the rest of the bunch will speed it up. It's the future of this platform. You guys are on the very bleeding edge of Internet tablets. Can you imagine if and when Nokia ever releases N900 with a faster processor and graphics card!

Fatalsaint I'm ready to try KDE v4. I want to put it on my mmc1 with Easy Debian. Will I be able to view kde v4 in a window like Easy Debian? Also I have 1gb of swap memory and the card is a 16gb class 6. Will using the 48 speed mmc card enhancement and the the large swap and class 6 card help speed KDE v4? Where is repos and is there a step by step for Easy Debian? I'm unclear about steps. TIA.

No I haven't done a step by step for Easy Debian because I don't use it.. I use Deblet =-(.

There have been several explanations (Qole - might want to make a new thread for "Running an Alternate Window Manager" for your chroot).. I had a basic one here.. and qole has outlined the steps more fully in other posts.. but essentially:

You would take my .deb files (actually Im hoping to have a apt-repo done sometime tonight/tomorrow) and install kde4 in a debian chroot.

Then you would have to copy (still in debian chroot) the /usr/bin/xpice (xpgnome for gnome) (I think that's still the right path; qole?) to a new script called, say, /usr/bin/xpkde4:
or then you would edit that file and find where it launches the window manager.. if gnome it will say "gnome-session", icewm will be "icewm-session". Change that to say "kdeinit4" I believe.

Then copy your /usr/share/applications/hildon/debwm.desktop and edit it to run the new command.

Qole showed how he got Gnome working and what to do .. just change it for KDE.

Don't do it, Dan! There's better ways to spend your time!

Stick to KDE 3. Seriously. Fatalsaint just about gave himself a concussion, banging his head against the KDE4 wall, and after all of that, he said, "don't bother!"

That's good enough for me....

Please! Think of the children!

Yeah.. 3 times now I keep going back hoping I was over-exagerating...

3 Times I got tired of using it and reloaded. I mean.. since he has 16GB of space and is apparantly not using it.. it's great for a "HAH! Check this out".. but honestly; You gain nothing by using KDE4 .. and in all honesty you lose productivity because it runs, by far, slower than any alternative presented yet.. KDE3, Gnome, IceWM, XFCE, Window Maker.. you name it.

For the most part.. except for the gittery "I did it!" attitude... it simply isn't worth it. But I knew someone was going to want it.. that's why I continued porting all the binaries I could. kdeutils, kdeadmin, kdeplasma, and a few others worked great. But I'm stilly missing a few.. kdegames and kdetoys being among them. And since I'm not using it anymore I haven't put a lot of time into them because they return coding errors; or segfaults in the middle of compiling.

I have PB's great KDE v3 port and its awesome. Can any of you see if you can get him to port it to Easy Debian or do a similar port to hildon. I strongly believe the future is in a window environment that allows you to seemlessly go between environments like Easy Debian(BTW Qole when will your full blown version come out??? and can you add rotation and speed kernel? Qwerty's is good also that naotime thing that Brontide does). We need to get the mmc cards to do what the Nxx chips can't. I just wish I wasn't such a newbie at all this. BTW what is Gnome? and can it be used inside of Easy Debian? or does it reside outside of Debian? Also does it use a window environment like Easy Debian?
The speed gains I had last time I used the 48 mmc speed with 1gb swap and class 6 card gives me the hunch that this will help KDE v4 increase it's speed. That setup also allowed me to run several apps simulteously. I think it will work. I know it will work. I just need a lot of help to do it right. I'll be a tester yet!
Look I travel all the time for work this is my only hardware. I want a devise I can slip into my pocket and do many many computer stuff with. I just hope that Nokia adds a 3g phone, bigger chips set, graphics card, more ram, hdmi port, two usb ports and two sdhc fullsize cards oh and real GPS chips. TIA

Dude..you are confusing the hell out of me...

A: 'Easy Debian' does not use a kernel.. enhanced or not. it might come with one.. but it's never active; you don't boot into it.

B) KDE, Gnome, and IceWM are window managers... that is all. They simply organize and manager a desktop for you... by desktop i mean wallpaper; application menu, task tray, etc... it really has nothing to do with what applications run.

C) There is no point for Penguinbait to "port" his KDE3 to "easy debian"... it came on debian before his port to maemo.. If you want the KDE penguinbait uses... follow my instructions for KDE 3.5.9 - not KDE4; KDE4 is entirely different.

D) Gnome is just another window manager like KDE and it runs on TOP of debian.. so Yes - it will run inside Easy Debian as long as you follow the steps to run it's session manager.. Any how to you see for Deblet should work for Easy debian because they are both Debian...

I dont think I fully understood your questions... but hopefully these answers help..