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2009-12-02
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Ok, so if i want to download apps for the N900, can i just download them from my pc and then copy them over to the phone via usb? And if i do that, will i still get automatic updates of those apps?
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2009-12-02
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http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository
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Unofficial PR1.3/Meego 1.1 FAQ
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Classic example of arbitrary Nokia decision making. Couldn't just fallback to the no brainer of tagging with lat/lon if network isn't accessible, could you Nokia?
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by Jack6428
No. If you just download the app on the computer and copy them to the phone, it won't be installed from a repository. (Unless you setup your computer as a server hosting a repository, but that would be silly, and you would have to update the repository yourself.) Setup the repository on the phone, and get the apps via the application manager. It's a very elegant, safe way to install software. (As long as it's a trustworthy repository.)
Ok, so if i want to download apps for the N900, can i just download them from my pc and then copy them over to the phone via usb? And if i do that, will i still get automatic updates of those apps?
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by dmj726
Yeah, you can do that. But it's MUCH easier to just install normally with the phone.
No. If you just download the app on the computer and copy them to the phone, it won't be installed from a repository. (Unless you setup your computer as a server hosting a repository, but that would be silly, and you would have to update the repository yourself.) Setup the repository on the phone, and get the apps via the application manager. It's a very elegant, safe way to install software. (As long as it's a trustworthy repository.)
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2009-12-02
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eeerrr ok, one question:
i downloaded some of the emulators (for nes, gba and snes) to my pc
does that mean i can not properly install them through my pc? do i necessarily need to download then through a repository?
that maemo-wiki-page sais: "Starting from Maemo 5, the only supported way to install software is from repositories."
does that mean that if i install/copy apps from my pc i need to do it in a complicated way to make them work?
how or where do i see what repository contains which apps?
when i add a repository to the n900, do i get a list of all apps in it? can i see the list of apps in a rep. on my computer before i add it to the n900? (so that i dont need to add rep for rep just to get a specific app but so that i can see beforehand what rep i need to add to get an app?)
Last edited by msa; 2009-12-02 at 21:11.
i downloaded some of the emulators (for nes, gba and snes) to my pc
does that mean i can not properly install them through my pc? do i necessarily need to download then through a repository?
that maemo-wiki-page sais: "Starting from Maemo 5, the only supported way to install software is from repositories."
does that mean that if i install/copy apps from my pc i need to do it in a complicated way to make them work?
how or where do i see what repository contains which apps?
when i add a repository to the n900, do i get a list of all apps in it? can i see the list of apps in a rep. on my computer before i add it to the n900? (so that i dont need to add rep for rep just to get a specific app but so that i can see beforehand what rep i need to add to get an app?)
Last edited by msa; 2009-12-02 at 21:11.
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2009-12-02
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@msa You can install the downloaded app, but it won't update like it would through the repository. Repositories are the only *supported* way to install software. It doesn't mean you can't install it manually (GNU/Linux box with a terminal...), but it's a) harder and b) not officially supported.
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2009-12-02
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It's the only supported way, but there are obviously other ways to do it. Developers install and reinstall local packages all the time from the command line.
You can't install it from your PC, though, it needs to be on the phone.
I'm not going to give more specific instructions here but look at documentation on the debian package system. That's what maemo uses--but with maemo-specific repositories and software.
Note that only the packages available in extras have the quality assurance testing done to make sure they don't fill up your root partition == bricked phone for typical user or drain your battery quickly. The same goes for the method of installation (using built-in package manager).
Edit: in response to your edited questions, read the wiki article i linked and the extras wiki. That has the answers to all the questions.
Last edited by Flandry; 2009-12-02 at 21:20.
You can't install it from your PC, though, it needs to be on the phone.
I'm not going to give more specific instructions here but look at documentation on the debian package system. That's what maemo uses--but with maemo-specific repositories and software.
Note that only the packages available in extras have the quality assurance testing done to make sure they don't fill up your root partition == bricked phone for typical user or drain your battery quickly. The same goes for the method of installation (using built-in package manager).
Edit: in response to your edited questions, read the wiki article i linked and the extras wiki. That has the answers to all the questions.
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Unofficial PR1.3/Meego 1.1 FAQ
Unofficial PR1.3/Meego 1.1 FAQ
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Classic example of arbitrary Nokia decision making. Couldn't just fallback to the no brainer of tagging with lat/lon if network isn't accessible, could you Nokia?
Last edited by Flandry; 2009-12-02 at 21:20.
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2009-12-02
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ah ok, so installing them through repositories makes them update themselves when updates are available, thats nice.
so basically there is no reason to not install them through repositories if you can, right?
where do i see what repository contains which app?
when i get my n900, i want to download gba, snes and nes-emulators. how do i find out what repository contains these apps`?
so basically there is no reason to not install them through repositories if you can, right?
where do i see what repository contains which app?
when i get my n900, i want to download gba, snes and nes-emulators. how do i find out what repository contains these apps`?
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2009-12-03
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Originally Posted by dmj726
Hm, ok..but don't i have to pay for the internet connection/data (if i don't have wifi near by) ?
No. If you just download the app on the computer and copy them to the phone, it won't be installed from a repository. (Unless you setup your computer as a server hosting a repository, but that would be silly, and you would have to update the repository yourself.) Setup the repository on the phone, and get the apps via the application manager. It's a very elegant, safe way to install software. (As long as it's a trustworthy repository.)
As a quick answer, repositories are a place where you can get applications (and updates!) for a Linux computer. You tell Linux how to find the repository (the URL). Now the application manager will check what applications are available from the repository, and you can install programs using the application manager. Most repositories take a great deal of pride in making sure that their software is safe, secure, and functional and regularly update the programs with security fixes and the like. This means that programs in a popular/trusted repository won't contain viruses. A repository also provides updates, so serious bugs can be fixed and sent through updates.
The main repository that Maemo users should be familiar with is extras, which contains most of the community apps that have been thoroughly tested.