Hey guys, sorry I couldn't get back to you early, was busy with work :S

All your views seem very helpfully.

I am not selling the N800 and going for the N95 as a means of the N95 is "better". They both do very diffent things.

When I first got the N800 I was hoping that I could go around the whole of London, staying connected via the wifi spots and surf the web.
I don't mind the annoying boring aspect of installing apps etc but it's the lack on Nokia's side which I'm unhappy about with the N800.

To me, the N800 is used as an addon to your household, so you have the mobile phone, HTPC, wireless touchscreen remote and the N800 is something that would be by the sofa for quick logging on to the net.

I was hoping the webcam would have been MUCH more better in quality as it is very unsual as to why they didn't include even a 1.2 MP webcam

My final conclusion is that the Nokia N800 has a mass of potential but I don't think Nokia executed it right in the first place, they gave too much freedom to the Open Source community without establishing a solid foundation to build upon, it just feels like a project gone wrong!


The reasons why I want the N95 inplace of the N800 is firstly I have no mobile at the moment so I need that, 2ndly I was either thinking of buying a good quality digital camera or a mobile with a decent camera, as I can hack the cam drivers and tweak them hopefully and decrease JPEG compression and overexposure

If Nokia updated the Flash player, opera version, added better apps rather than old school PDA apps. Stuff like Canola should have been done by Nokia!

It's just too confusing for me to even think about lol., I'm so annoyed as to why they released something like this, and look at the price tag!!!!!! why is it so expensive?? what are we getting.. open source OS, barebone hardly anything provided, low grade camera, nasty interface and theres more and more lol WHY! :S

I think im just going to stay with the N95, and wait a few months, wait til something solid comes on the market.

i do not agree. I don't know of any better mobile browsing device than the n800. So I think the price is ok for such a revolutionary device.
Opera on n800 is better than the nokia webbrowser for the n95, and also way better than any brower for windows mobile or palm, or gaming systen (psp for example)
Only the umpc devices have better webbrowsers, but they are more expensive and larger or a lot heavier.

I also think that the user interface of the s60 phones, like the n95, has a lot of problems, and in general I don't think it is superior to much of the Internettablet UI.

The only mobile device that i think may compare to the web experience on the n800 is the apple iphone (but with very different strong points). But we will have to see if it lives up to expectation. (The screen is rather small, and i seriously have my doubts about the touchscreen keyboard.)

I tend to agree as well. You are now where I was about 6 weeks or so ago. The N800 has great potential but it is not a current consumer device. It is not as polished as it could be, the application installation process is not consumer friendly and Nokia should defiantly be more proactive in application development. Your statement about being a project gone wrong is a tad bit off in my opinion. I tend to think of it as a project unfinished or not well thought out. In its current state the N800 will never appeal to the mass market and will continue to be a device with more appeal to the developer/Linux sects. Nokia needs to decide where they are headed with this device.

Canola is developed by Nokia. The biggest gripe I have with the N800 comes with a lack of cohesion within the ranks at Nokia and with developers on the outside. I agree with the idea that it seems very "project-like", and as such there seems to be a lack of direction as to where the platform will ultimately end up.

I keep on telling myself I am going to wait until next year to upgrade knowing myself I am probably going to wait till June 29th to try out an iPhone and when it inevitably doesn't meet my expectations I will buy an N95 myself. Of course I will keep the N800 its simply too useful to ditch right now.

check the shutter lag specs on the n95. if you've not used a digital camera before, borrow especially a cheap/old one and see what it is like to wait 1sec or so between pressing the button and actually capturing the image. for the price, this took it out of the "converged digital cam plus phone to always have with me". otoh, (1) I do a lot of photography and so am probably more demanding than average, and (2) there are some references around the web to a firmware upgrade which improves the shutter lag.

rob.

Good point Rob. I agree about the camera. It is quite slow. Sort of feels like it is building up a head of steam. However, when I want to take pics I use my Nikon. The camera on the N95 is not for serious photography. It is a nice "throw in" and when it works, the pics are quite okay, but I would not rely on this in the least. The new upgrade is supposed to make things better.