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2010-04-22 , 16:18
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Originally Posted by Rugoz View Post
My god, how alarmist.
It was alarmist, but odds are he's right. Nokia cannot forestall the inevitable forever. Sooner or later the company will no longer be able to ride the wave of past success.
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2010-04-22 , 16:21
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net losses. geezz
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:24
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they had 3 years to revamp an already established OS, in which other NEWER competitors have managed to create OS's (android, WebOS).

What the hell are Nokia doing?
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:27
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Originally Posted by jnwi View Post
No. Nokia is behind, but with more players on the ice. They have to score now or it's over.
Ok I agree with your sentiment, but that video isn't really the best one to higlight it. Nokia used to own this market and are still in the lead. It's been a market for Nokia to lose, not to win.

I got a feeling that better finnish hockey classic might be that Fin vs. Swe match that was 5-0 and ended 5-6 (Nokia vs Android ecosystem).
 

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2010-04-22 , 16:30
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Ok I agree with your sentiment, but that video isn't really the best one to higlight it. Nokia used to own this market and are still in the lead. It's been a market for Nokia to lose, not to win.

I got a feeling that better finnish hockey classic might be that Fin vs. Swe match that was 5-0 and ended 5-6 (Nokia vs Android ecosystem).
You have a point. But as long as it's not FIN-USA 2010...
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:31
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Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Just look at the awesome phones Dell just announced

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/d...ice-leaks-out/

Nokia is supposed to be creating wow's and ahhhs with phone releases. No one ever complains about Noki'a hardware, is their hard-on for Symbian going to be their downfall. They have not yet shown they are any good at software at the same level as Apple or Google.
Hardware like that will become ubiquitous in the near future. It's all about software and services. As you said, nokia has to compete with apple, google and microsoft in that regard. Not exactly an easy task. But their positioning is good, execution is lacking a bit :-).
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:32
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Originally Posted by Rugoz View Post
I guess you mean s60 5th edition by quality issues. I had N82 and E71 and was completely satisfied by the software quality from a user perspective.
The E71 was the most stable and satisfying (major functions worked as advertised in an awesome form factor) it phone I've ever used.

However, the E72 was such a small increment, Nokia wasn't showing much vision. Did they fall prey to the N95 mentality => milking a decent phone to death and forget future innovation?

Put whoever was in charge of E71 in terms of quality and stability in charge of everything!
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:36
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From techies to Financial Analysts all of a sudden.
 
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2010-04-22 , 16:39
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
It was pretty bad quarter. No idea what the USA media is saying, but the finnish media isn't happy either.

Symbian^3 delay is very bad news. Nokia needs to get S^3 out before Android eats the market. Nokia's brand strenght alone can't keep the current Android push at bay. Sales down -30% in europe during past 3 months. That's really terrible even if the usual past-christmas slowdown is taken into account.

Only good news was the suprise profit from Nokia Siemens Networks.
NOkia has got to advertise!!!! they dont advertise over here in the usa. how are peeps supposed to know about them? most cell manufacturers kinda get help with ads via the newwork they operate on. BUT NOT NOKIA!!! who even knows what symbian 3 is besides geeks and current nokia users? NOW who knows what android is???
EVERY BODY!!
including my mom who is over 50 years old! she even knows what a APP is!!!! who the hellever heard of symbian^3 or even symbian for tha tmatter? enthusiasts and nokia owners
 
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Originally Posted by Diavoli View Post
From techies to Financial Analysts all of a sudden.
I take it you're new here.
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