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#21
Okay, so I got it compiled and it seems like it runs on my N800. At least I can get it to dump the the --help info.
Just one problem...while the OS X version of Einstein runs just fine with the developer ROM image, Einstein on the N800 refuses to run it at all and seems to require a real ROM dump from an MP. Tried various machine switches, but to no avail.
Einstein on the N800 weighs in at a hefty 15.6 MB too. I know NOTHING about building deb packages for the N800, so if someone else with a dumped MP ROM - NOT the Senior ROM - wants to try this out, send me a PM with a decent place to upload my compiled Einstein-for-N800 binary.

Last edited by iball; 2007-07-28 at 05:26.
 
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#22
I've built the latest revision from Google code (48) and I have it up on my site for download.

http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/2...for-nokia-770/

This is for the Nokia 770, ITOS 2006.

You need to have your own Newton ROM, or don't bother.

I can host the N800 binary on my site if someone can send it to me. Also-- if you are worried about size, bzip2 makes that 16meg file on about 2 megs!

-andy
 
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#23
Thanks for 770 compile.
I installed it last night successfully but have spent the time until now experimenting with Keyspan and classic on two laptops -- without success.
But 100 miles and one month away I have a retired OS 9 laptop with an external CD writer.
For now, all I can do is let you know that you did your bit well.
 
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#24
N800 binary, anyone? I'd be happy to host it.
 
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yes, just waiting for that, mee too. I don't have a Mac so I cannot compile it by myself
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#26
iball sent me his N800 binary. I've put it up here:

http://stevenf.com/downloads/einstein800.gz

I haven't tried it yet because I have to hurry up and get to work. But the file's there for anyone who's feeling daring.
 
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Update: It seems to run OK, but whatever is supposed to link it to the windowserver doesn't seem to work; no window or display ever appears.

Basically, to set this up:

1. Download and extract the binary, and put it somewhere on your N800's memory (not a card). I just put it in my home directory.

2. Make it executable (chmod +x einstein)

3. Copy your ROM file to the same directory. Also copy Einstein.rex from the main distribution to the same directory.

4. Run it from the terminal: ./einstein .

At this point the Einstein platform loads, and the emulation appears to be running, but there is no display.

NOTE: Please don't ask me for the ROM. It is ILLEGAL for me to give it to you. I actually own a MessagePad 2100 (actually, three of them )
 
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Did anyone manage to have this working on the N800? Did the problems related to the emulator showing nothing got a solution?
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Well, since this was the first thing I've ever compiled for the N800 I guess it will work. What's really surprising is that it was compiled OUT of scratchbox (look at the compile directions...weird). I just setup scratchbox today, so I might go back to it.
I followed the instructions to the letter and didn't get any errors whatsoever, so maybe it needs tweaking on the command line? Or a hidden config file? Check to see if any config file(s) are created when running it with a real ROM image.
I wish he had made it compatible with the dev Newton OS image, but oh well...maybe a peek at the code will reveal "the secret" if any of you want to take a gander at it to see if it can be hacked to run the dev NOS ROM.
The Mac OS X Einstein app runs the dev image perfectly.
For those of you out there with REAL Newton ROMs, can you setup scratchbox and see if it runs in there?
Damn, now I have to hit up eBay for a real MP2100. Oh well, always wanted one anyway. I kinda miss my old MP120 I used in Bosnia in '96...great little portable fax machine at the time.
Already have the Palm emulator running on my N800, would love to eventually get Einstein going for my "three-pdas-in-one" device.

p.s. Glad you got it steven, I figured it crashed out or something after the upload so I wasn't sure it uploaded all the way...should have bzip2'd the damn thing first. Sorry it doesn't work, contact the author maybe? Perhaps there's a compile switch that needs to be used that isn't documented in the instructions I followed?
Or does the Einstein.rex file that the 770 version uses also need to be used on the N800? It's on Diller's site.

Last edited by iball; 2007-08-07 at 08:36.
 
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#30
The most difficult challenge in obtaining the Newton ROM was finding and starting my ancient 1400c and a compatible CD writer. The ROM is now installed in the 770.

Dillera in his link in post 22 gives instructions on running Einstein that left me uncertain about two things. I would like to know
i) must ssh be used or does einstein run stand alone (under xterm) and
ii) does it run (and exit politely (no battery pulls)) without first "killing OSS/Maemo/Hildon" as mentioned in the link.

Thanks,
 
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