Reply
Thread Tools
Flandry's Avatar
Posts: 1,559 | Thanked: 1,786 times | Joined on Oct 2009 @ Boston
#351
Originally Posted by jjx View Post
To increase energy & power density - that is, energy & power in a fixed volume - the problem isn't weight.

The lightweight property of lithium atoms is irrelevant to that.

Your description works very well when you desire the best energy-to-weight ratio, but I think I wouldn't mind if the N900's battery were twice as heavy, if it lasted twice as long.
Sorry, i was talking about mass density, so energy/mass (hence pointing out that lithium is light). Batteries are a lot more similar if you look at volume density.

Anyway, i did leave a lot out for simplicity. I didn't even mention volume, but was really talking about both mass and volume. A more complete statement would have been: lithium-based batteries are the best option, when considering energy/volume and energy/mass, for a small, "safe", rechargeable power source with sufficiently high power density and satisfactorily low self discharge characteristics for a pocket computer.

__________________

Unofficial PR1.3/Meego 1.1 FAQ

***
Classic example of arbitrary Nokia decision making. Couldn't just fallback to the no brainer of tagging with lat/lon if network isn't accessible, could you Nokia?
MAME: an arcade in your pocket
Accelemymote: make your accelerometer more joy-ful
 
Posts: 42 | Thanked: 8 times | Joined on Dec 2009
#352
Originally Posted by marauder View Post
After the second week of usage I must confirm that my N900 (and from the posts I've read some other too) will occasionally have an issue with the wifi connection. It looks like the Wifi module/service hangs and will not find any Wifi spot until it gets reboot. And I would guess the wifi hangs in an "always on" condition as this will casue the battery to drain VERY quickly (4.5 hours with a full battery).
I seem to have this same issue. One night my N900 was fully charged at 11 pm and battery was dead at 5 am (all radios presumably switched off). Last night the tablet was fully charged at 10 pm and at 8 am the battery indicator had dropped only one step (some browsing and phone call included). Then the Wifi hanged and within 2 hours I had only one step left.
 
Posts: 7 | Thanked: 0 times | Joined on Dec 2009 @ Kuwait
#353
so what is the word about the batteries, some people have defect units or what?
my phone is dying way to fast and its making me not use the phone that much in fear that it will die on me.
 
Posts: 3,617 | Thanked: 2,412 times | Joined on Nov 2009 @ Cambridge, UK
#354
Originally Posted by abdulsalam View Post
so what is the word about the batteries, some people have defect units or what?
my phone is dying way to fast and its making me not use the phone that much in fear that it will die on me.
There's been a number of reasons posted so far. Some people have found that replacing the SIM card fixed the problem, others have replaced the phone and fixed it. Alternately, it could be a software problem - there's been a few people pointed to issues with WLAN and/or bluetooth (though others have had no issues with these).
 
Posts: 716 | Thanked: 303 times | Joined on Sep 2009 @ Sheffield, UK
#355
Originally Posted by Rob1n View Post
There's been a number of reasons posted so far. Some people have found that replacing the SIM card fixed the problem, others have replaced the phone and fixed it. Alternately, it could be a software problem - there's been a few people pointed to issues with WLAN and/or bluetooth (though others have had no issues with these).
I didn't see anyone report that replacing the phone fixed it. On the contrary, what I have read was that replacing the phone did NOT fix it, replacing the SIM card however does in some circumstances.

It sounds like the majority of the time it is software related, which is what you would expect. With the various random combinations of software and configuration, its obviously triggering something.

It could even be as simple as incompatibility with certain routers that you may happen to walk in range of during the day and the N900 happens to be probing at that moment. That would be a good explanation for random WiFi lockups.
 
Posts: 28 | Thanked: 7 times | Joined on Nov 2009
#356
For all those that have been experiencing fast battery drain due to wifi being hung (not being able to find wifi spots after disconnection, until reboot of the device), there is an open bug report at:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416

Please leave your comment there, and vote for the issue. You have to register, but it's real fast. More people report this issue, better are the chances of getting it fixed.
 
Posts: 4,556 | Thanked: 1,624 times | Joined on Dec 2007
#357
For those that have the wifi hang, I'm guessing you cannot just disable the wifi and enable it again as a fix? I wonder if the terminal command of it would be a bandaid fix for now

ifconfig - tells you what wireless and wired hardware you have on the device (for the n900 it'll only be wireless)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig

That command will tell you the hardware, MAC address, what IP you are connected to, DNS, etc..

Then for whatever one is the wifi hardware you can do

ifconfig NAMEOFTHEHARDWARE (e.g. wlan0 for PCs usually) down

then

ifconfig NAMEOFTHEHARDWARE (e.g. wlan0 for PCs usually) up

(that is if I remember the commands correctly).
__________________
Originally Posted by ysss View Post
They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...

Last edited by Laughing Man; 2009-12-04 at 13:37. Reason: Added http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig link
 

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Laughing Man For This Useful Post:
Posts: 28 | Thanked: 7 times | Joined on Nov 2009
#358
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
For those that have the wifi hang, I'm guessing you cannot just disable the wifi and enable it again as a fix? I wonder if the terminal command of it would be a bandaid fix for now

ifconfig - tells you what wireless and wired hardware you have on the device (for the n900 it'll only be wireless)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig

That command will tell you the hardware, MAC address, what IP you are connected to, DNS, etc..

Then for whatever one is the wifi hardware you can do

ifconfig NAMEOFTHEHARDWARE (e.g. wlan0 for PCs usually) down

then

ifconfig NAMEOFTHEHARDWARE (e.g. wlan0 for PCs usually) up

(that is if I remember the commands correctly).
Disabling the wifi and enabling it again won't show existing wifi hotspots, that's part of the problem.

I knew about the ifconfig command, but didn't know about the up/down command. I'll try using those next time I get this issue. Thanks!
 
Posts: 3 | Thanked: 1 time | Joined on Dec 2009 @ Florida
#359
I had the same problem with battery drain, here's what I found out, and did.

when configuring my e-mail accounts I used N900 factory pre-determined settings for bellsouth.net thats the automatic recommended easy way, right?, everything went fine for awhile, then I stopped getting my mail, did everything again, received all my mail and after half a day it just stopped again, re-booted and received mail.

Meanwhile my battery was draining like grazy 4-6 hours max. Last night I re-configured my e-mail with the "other" setting and filled all the info i.e. pop and smtp etc. , update every hour etc. manually.... recharged the phone for about 3 hours and left it on the table overnight unplugged. This morning the battery was still full, I had skype and rest of the applets (om weather, foreca and stuff) on, no facebook widget.

Seems like the factory e-mail settings in N900 weren't quite right so my unit was trying to connect to server all the time (even when update was on manual) thus draining the battery.

Last edited by ollifl; 2009-12-04 at 15:31.
 

The Following User Says Thank You to ollifl For This Useful Post:
Posts: 42 | Thanked: 8 times | Joined on Dec 2009
#360
Originally Posted by marauder View Post
For all those that have been experiencing fast battery drain due to wifi being hung (not being able to find wifi spots after disconnection, until reboot of the device), there is an open bug report at:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416

Please leave your comment there, and vote for the issue. You have to register, but it's real fast. More people report this issue, better are the chances of getting it fixed.
I was so sure that the battery drain problem was wifi related. But now it happened again and wifi was definitely not the cause. Seems that I have (again) encountered pure crap made by Nokia. I think I'll just return the unit and claim my money back (since I have that option). Regarding my record with Nokia warranty services I am not going to wait for a month to get the unit "repaired".
 

The Following User Says Thank You to Blackbeard For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
n900 battery, n900 v. power war, piss poor


 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:26.