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2011-04-29
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#31
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Originally Posted by damnshock
Realistically you surely have to see that with only 256 mb ram that your never going to go far quality wise in any direction no matter what or how the drivers are written, the N900 just falls short on hardware to be able to achieve what you are asking because if it was even remotely possible it would have been accomplished by now a long time ago.
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2011-04-29
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Look at these specs from the Windows Media HD page to be able to play 720p on a pc then compare to the N900 and i am sure you will have the answers.
Minimum Configuration
(to play 720p video)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
2.4 GHz processor or equivalent
384 MB of RAM
64 MB video card
DVD drive
1024 x 768 screen resolution
16-bit sound card
Speakers
Optimum Configuration
(to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
DirectX 9.0
3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
512 MB of RAM
128 MB video card
DVD drive
1920 x 1440 screen resolution
24-bit 96 kHz multichannel sound card
5.1 surround sound speaker system.
Good luck is all i can say
Minimum Configuration
(to play 720p video)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
2.4 GHz processor or equivalent
384 MB of RAM
64 MB video card
DVD drive
1024 x 768 screen resolution
16-bit sound card
Speakers
Optimum Configuration
(to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
DirectX 9.0
3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
512 MB of RAM
128 MB video card
DVD drive
1920 x 1440 screen resolution
24-bit 96 kHz multichannel sound card
5.1 surround sound speaker system.
Good luck is all i can say
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2011-04-29
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@ Barcelona
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#33
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Yeah, but I was referring to that some later OMAP's has improved DSPs and SGX..
Well, the thing is that the N900 *can* do this. It's obvious whenever you try on Nitdroid.
We'll have to find a way to do so on Maemo/meego
Regards
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2011-04-29
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#34
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Yeah, those are requirements if you are using CPU to decode. If you use GPU you don't need such speeds(I was able to watch 1080p on my old Sempron 1.8GHz with 10-15% CPU load). And in case of n900 DSP is GPU equivalent. And n900 DSP is 100% capable to decode 720p (maybe with a little help from ARM side) . We just don't have software. And Meego DE won't have it either. Period.
Look at these specs from the Windows Media HD page to be able to play 720p on a pc then compare to the N900 and i am sure you will have the answers.
Minimum Configuration
(to play 720p video)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
2.4 GHz processor or equivalent
384 MB of RAM
64 MB video card
DVD drive
1024 x 768 screen resolution
16-bit sound card
Speakers
Optimum Configuration
(to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound)
Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
DirectX 9.0
3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
512 MB of RAM
128 MB video card
DVD drive
1920 x 1440 screen resolution
24-bit 96 kHz multichannel sound card
5.1 surround sound speaker system.
Good luck is all i can say
@damnshock Is NitDroid capable of playing 720p through DSP. If that is the case I can look at codecs to see if it is possible to run them under Maemo.
Last edited by freemangordon; 2011-04-29 at 16:10.
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2011-04-29
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#35
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Who cares about 720p on 480p display?
I always compress my moves to 480p.
By that you get smaler size and you phone does not have to scale the picture, and you are saving CPU time and battery.
How hard you will try you can never get 720p on a 480p display.
I always compress my moves to 480p.
By that you get smaler size and you phone does not have to scale the picture, and you are saving CPU time and battery.
How hard you will try you can never get 720p on a 480p display.
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2011-04-29
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#36
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Originally Posted by toxaris
Already answered http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=16
Who cares about 720p on 480p display?
I always compress my moves to 480p.
By that you get smaler size and you phone does not have to scale the picture, and you are saving CPU time and battery.
How hard you will try you can never get 720p on a 480p display.
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2011-04-29
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#37
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Originally Posted by rocky333
Even my ARM11-powered Nokia N8 play 720p movies like a charm!
The hardware? i think... there is some phones with 256RAM to play 720p files...
Iphone 3GS ( tweaked )
OMNIA HD
DROID
SAMSUNG H1
And why not, N900 UNDER ANDROID!!
256MB is more than sufficient to play 720P standart movies.
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2011-04-29
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#38
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wouldn't it be nice if we first get normal videos at 30fps?
i mean ok we could someday(maybe 2012)get 720p recording and playback.at which speeds would the video run?
probably 5fps.....
i mean ok we could someday(maybe 2012)get 720p recording and playback.at which speeds would the video run?
probably 5fps.....
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2011-04-30
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#39
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RAM size isn't an issue for 720p. RAM speed is more important.
And no, N8 doesn't decode h264 on ARM11.
There's a reason the only 720p codecs for this particular SOC cost alot of money: it's bloody hard to do, and your efforts are mostly wasted anyway because you can't reuse it for anything else. That's why you'd only do it if you're both crazy, one in a billion genius, and getting paid sacks of money.
And no, N8 doesn't decode h264 on ARM11.
There's a reason the only 720p codecs for this particular SOC cost alot of money: it's bloody hard to do, and your efforts are mostly wasted anyway because you can't reuse it for anything else. That's why you'd only do it if you're both crazy, one in a billion genius, and getting paid sacks of money.
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2011-04-30
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Originally Posted by shadowjk
And where are these codecs? How much are them? Can we buy them as a single user?
There's a reason the only 720p codecs for this particular SOC cost alot of money: it's bloody hard to do, and your efforts are mostly wasted anyway because you can't reuse it for anything else. That's why you'd only do it if you're both crazy, one in a billion genius, and getting paid sacks of money.
