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Well in Canada its not that popular and since they already ordered some from the US warehouse , I'm sure I will get it two weeks

If that's the case the value of this product goes even higher. Windows 8 will support ARM CPUs I dont see any reason not run it on this thing

As for the docking station afaik its $150 not $200
*cough* With Windows, "running" is such a strong word...
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I dunno... With a cellphone, ARM makes sense. With a tablet, though, I'd want an Atom, so I could run fullblown applications(including legacy games via Wine). And still have decent battery life.
On top of that, I don't know how you'd run Windows(of any sort) on an ARM proc anyway - It'd lag horribly. Even un-optimized Linux is slow. With a hefty Atom, you might get it running acceptably.
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I dunno... With a cellphone, ARM makes sense. With a tablet, though, I'd want an Atom, so I could run fullblown applications(including legacy games via Wine). And still have decent battery life.
On top of that, I don't know how you'd run Windows(of any sort) on an ARM proc anyway - It'd lag horribly. Even un-optimized Linux is slow. With a hefty Atom, you might get it running acceptably.
Next years ARM chips (and Qualcomm's next-gen Snapdragons) promise outperform ATOM by an impressive margin, offer 4 cores, and provide characteristics that people love from mobile devices: low cost, fan-less, ultra-thin/light, incredible battery life, and instant sleep/wake. Additionally, the included GPUs are very, very impressive -- capable of stereoscopic 3D in full 1080p.

Of course it needn't be said that software not optimized for these new chips will suffer or not run at all (eg. software optimized for x86 assembly)... But I said it anyway. As I understand it, the debian repos already compiled for ARM v7, so a large amount of Linux OSS software is available now.

I'm not a terrible fan of Atom, but I would agree that I'd at the very least want this level of performance to run traditional linux desktop setups. I have full faith that next-gen ARM will surprise many folk.
 

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The Transformer looks soooo good.

What OSes could be potentiality forced into this thing?

Sorry in advance if this is a bad question...
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
Next years ARM chips (and Qualcomm's next-gen Snapdragons) promise outperform ATOM by an impressive margin, offer 4 cores, and provide characteristics that people love from mobile devices: low cost, fan-less, ultra-thin/light, incredible battery life, and instant sleep/wake. Additionally, the included GPUs are very, very impressive -- capable of stereoscopic 3D in full 1080p.

Of course it needn't be said that software not optimized for these new chips will suffer or not run at all (eg. software optimized for x86 assembly)... But I said it anyway. As I understand it, the debian repos already compiled for ARM v7, so a large amount of Linux OSS software is available now.

I'm not a terrible fan of Atom, but I would agree that I'd at the very least want this level of performance to run traditional linux desktop setups. I have full faith that next-gen ARM will surprise many folk.
This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.
Full-blown Linux + Powerful GUI (Qt) + Multi-Architecture-Cross-Compatability + A New, Fresh, Clean start + Support for millions of legacy code (just needs porting).

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans... which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM,
or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?),
or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).
 

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This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.
Full-blown Linux + Powerful GUI (Qt) + Multi-Architecture-Cross-Compatability + A New, Fresh, Clean start + Support for millions of legacy code (just needs porting).

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans... which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM,
or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?),
or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).
I never really trusted Nokia on the Meego issue. My hope is still that someone will come out of nowhere with what we want. Yes, Ubuntu on ARM or whatever. Though I hope my Transformer will keep me happy for awhile, unless I decide to buy a laptop instead.
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Had a few hours with one almost a week back. Seriously... this is a nice tablet. I'm using the MyWater.apk live wallpaper for my background on my Xoom, as well as the Weather widget from the Asus Transformer.

I'm not a fan of the backing (felt cheap); but everything else is on point with this tablet.

Now... if only I can find a damn video player that can play *.divx files and I'll be happy.
 

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Originally Posted by *the_newbie* View Post
Does what OSs could be potentiality forced into this thing?
Android only, probably. Maybe MeeGo, if the kernel ASUS used is new enough. The way Google, and as a result most hardware vendors, work with the kernel lends poorly to allowing future kernels work on the same hardware. Then you're followed by the monster that is graphics drivers, and Nvidia currently doesn't support MeeGo, only older Xorg builds for Ubuntu and Android.

Similar difficulties lie in wait for Windows whatever on ARM.

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This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.
And still do. Last I checked the project hadn't gone anywhere.

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans...
Why would they be? Nokia is (mostly) gone, and after seeing their mismanagement drive the company into the ground (and I consider their current direction mismanagement) it's probably a good thing they're (mostly) gone.

which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM, or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?), or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).
Or buy the Transformer and start getting on ASUS's case to work with people and releasing a MeeGo build of the Tegra 2 drivers and a proper hardware port to the 2.6.37 kernel (if you can get that far without Android-isms, it might be good enough to go mainline, where drivers should be.)
 

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Or buy the Transformer and start getting on ASUS's case to work with people and releasing a MeeGo build of the Tegra 2 drivers and a proper hardware port to the 2.6.37 kernel (if you can get that far without Android-isms, it might be good enough to go mainline, where drivers should be.)

ASUS will never release a MeeGo build for the Transformer.
Because they would potentially have to pay their coders for work for an investment with no return, they aren't that fan friendly.

At best we'll see ASUS will release their Android source code, a CM7 is built (bare-bones Android), a quick and decent (dontholdyourbreath) port of Ubuntu, and by using the resources between the three a beta-port of MeeGo could be made.

In fact, I think it would much better if someone ports QML to 2.3, then it'll be half-decent.
 

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