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Have it your way, Marcelo, but IMHO you're being much too patient.

There really wasn't that much hype about Canola2...
Just like almost every software currently in development for the iTT, they all have their usability problems. The title of this thread suffers from false advertising. I don't know if the program suffers at all. Well, maybe the download process suffered, and in turn the installation suffered, but it is usable.
What happened to the good old days when people didn't just complain? People should just offer good criticism and solutions, or sit back and wait for the developers to correct the bugs and revise the software per responses...

I've downloaded the Canola2 and it works... It displays photos, plays music and videos and I have podcast support. Yes, there are things I'd like to see (which I will provide input in the proper locations) but it is a beta piece of software and a very nice alternative to the other music/video players we have out there. Plus, currently, it is free, and you can't beat that price. (I know I know, nothing is free, but this is as close as it gets).

BTW... Windows Vista does not live up to the hype, and I believe suffers from usability issues... And I PAID for that POS....

BWAHAHAHAHA... and what's more, it's been that way ever since Windows 1.0 ! :-)

Usability issues? Heck I can't even get the program yet. The downloads are continuing to come up as 'corrupted file etc etc'. Bizarre misleading error message and it tells what? As a base user, I am not doing backflips or 'other' mirrors or install variations. The point is The Program itself, period done. At this point it has AVAILABILITY issues.
argghhh see ya maybe in six months to a year, I hope.

There's a simple way to fix the download availability problem now:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...498#post114498

p.s. It is not specific to Canola and not their fault.

I was following the directions on the followinf post:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=225

I think what they were doing is making sure the images were stored with the music files rather than in the .canola folder.

To do the above I think I needed to become root (using the becomeroot app via sudo gainroot - search for information on this).

I then ran the python scripts from my home directory (this is accessed via xterm).

One issue I had with the video_thumb.py script was I needed to add a larger default time (--time=120) to make the images more usable (otherwise I got a lot of opening credits).

Hope this was of help.

Just a reminder that usually only the people have usability problems go on the forums to give feedback/complain.

So don't get disheartened canola team, because most of us are using it just fine and have no problems

Hi Patleeman,

thanks =) I really don't worry too much because of this and other thing:
1) we know the issues and we have plenty of ways of solving. we are just testing / making sure we use the best one

2) we do receive excelent feedback from the website form =) And this is what counts a lot of people saying that they like, that maybe a little bit here or there should be different but they are really ok with the concepts and they understand what we are trying to do =)

So in the end, Opensource Zealots were expectable, but no problem we deal with them inside the team, so we know how to deal with the ones outside. that's why I don't get pissed. For me Suri is just like other Free software lover in tour team =)

BR

Marcelo

Firstly: THANKS!
Secondly: My original comment was not intended to read 'hot'. More like tongue in cheek sarcastic chiding wine with a smile...
(ion's disclaimer)

O.k. so I am not going to do backflips.....but o.k. I can roll (lol) with your excellent 'alternative'.

For truly the program itself and its great offering of functionality, is the key.
I just regret that it seems fellas like you and other community members who are quite savvy are having to 'work' overtime with these crazy work arounds and do damage control for someone else's disaster. Ya thats a good word for the whole debacle.

So, kudos to you guys that have helped so much, really. Just allow me to be rightly annoyed with the OS fumble and access issues by whomever.
As a project manager in other types of work, it just is not acceptable to me to see such screwups in their own specialty. The software.

Now, while I don't agree with Suryavanshi about Canola being totally unusable, I think THIS comment (quoted comment) brings down the level of debate to bad-mouthing.

Surya didn't really bad mouth the developers. He voiced his concerns - true or not - and laid down some of his reasons (a reasoned debate is not bad mouthing). And Marcello did take on the concerns and answered with a reasoned reply. End of topic.

I guess these kinds of convoluted reasoning happens when there is a HUGE level of anticipation from a software (or hardware) and it fails in some ways. Then we tend to tarnish the whole of the software with the same bad brush as the little parts of it which are not working. That is wrong, and that is where Surya maybe overdid in his critique of Canola 2.

Again this is another of those convolutions, where we try to justify that open source (or fill in your software of criticism) can be given some slack in being bug-filled, since MS Windows is and we paid for it. I dont see why Windows being buggy has anything to do with the topic of Canola having some bugs (which Marcelllo and group have admitted as being Beta and are fixing). What is the link here ? Can someone fill me in ?