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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by lma
Why? You'd check A record of the defined MMSC, bring up ppp1, add a route to the resolved IPs (and keep default route as is; e.g. ppp0), and voila.
It can, but routing and DNS are going to be "interesting".
Frals, but for making a dirty hack, the SMS data is saved somewhere on the device I suppose? If you can grab the encoded SMS (containing URI) then you can decode the MMS, use wget (for HTTP; or something which supports WAP) to grab the data, and then decode the data using MMS decoder. If we have a dirty hack to get it working, maybe Nokia will do the rest or fix the proprietary aspect to allow us to get it working prettier integrated. Because for Nokia to include MMS they'd have to implement full standards & protocols like WML/WAP while we can hack something which works for this particular MMS use-case.
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Good idea! Can't wait to get my hands on a device to test something like this...
Frals, but for making a dirty hack, the SMS data is saved somewhere on the device I suppose? If you can grab the encoded SMS (containing URI) then you can decode the MMS, use wget (for HTTP; or something which supports WAP) to grab the data, and then decode the data using MMS decoder. If we have a dirty hack to get it working, maybe Nokia will do the rest or fix the proprietary aspect to allow us to get it working prettier integrated. Because for Nokia to include MMS they'd have to implement full standards & protocols like WML/WAP while we can hack something which works for this particular MMS use-case.
I'll do some digging to see where received SMS is stored (hopefully even the non-standard-text SMS's are stored there as well), or what happends to "discarded" messages.
Also worth to have in mind is this might break the MMS transaction as you are suppose to acknowledge getting the MMS etc, but that's a problem to solve later. :-)
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2009-10-09
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Been digging around the final SDK and reading the final API docs and haven't really found anything about where SMS are saved/how to hook in to it.
I've have, however, found quite a few rtcom calls that would be nice to have some documentation on, but those libs are closed.
Could anyone with a device check where the SMS's are stored (and possible try and receive an MMS and see what happens - I'd assume you end up with a webblink for it though)?
I've have, however, found quite a few rtcom calls that would be nice to have some documentation on, but those libs are closed.
Could anyone with a device check where the SMS's are stored (and possible try and receive an MMS and see what happens - I'd assume you end up with a webblink for it though)?
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2009-10-10
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Originally Posted by frals
The SMS are stored in a sqlite database in /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db (and all calls, etc).
Could anyone with a device check where the SMS's are stored (and possible try and receive an MMS and see what happens - I'd assume you end up with a webblink for it though)?
I can't send me a MMS right now but I'll try later today (if someone here want send me one before would be nice, PM me for details).
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2009-10-10
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Cool, thanks!
Just realised there's a talk on telepathy and how it's used for SMS and how to use telepathy from your own application. Hopefully someone can record it / get the slides or something as I'm sure it will be some help in that presentation.
Just realised there's a talk on telepathy and how it's used for SMS and how to use telepathy from your own application. Hopefully someone can record it / get the slides or something as I'm sure it will be some help in that presentation.
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After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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2009-10-12
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Waiting for slides/video of the telepathy on maemo presentation as that will hopefully provide us with some valuable information.
Until then, since there is ~300 more N900s in the wild - could anyone with a device check with dbus-monitor if there's a dbus-signal on incoming SMS(/MMS)?
And/or if the SMS control messages for the MMS ends up in ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db?
Have been searching through the documentation and have not yet found anything on this, or have I just missed the right doc so far?
Until then, since there is ~300 more N900s in the wild - could anyone with a device check with dbus-monitor if there's a dbus-signal on incoming SMS(/MMS)?
And/or if the SMS control messages for the MMS ends up in ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db?
Have been searching through the documentation and have not yet found anything on this, or have I just missed the right doc so far?
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After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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2009-10-13
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Just discussed this on IRC, appearently this was discussed at the summit.
To implement sending/receiving somewhat properly appearently we are going to need some kernelwork. (I'm still unclear exactly what's needed - I assume it's the different routing and stuff discussed on the wiki page.)
The workaround for sending would be a sharing plugin (and a free MMS-gateway service, I assume).
Receiving... Hopefully your carrier sends you an SMS with a weblink to get the MMS.
I still think its possible to implement MMS sending/receiving with the limitation of having to tear down the current connection and opening a new one to the MMSC. Which would somewhat limit the functionality as true push MMS as it wouldn't function when using the connection, but better than nothing
EDIT: The kernel issue is with establishing a network connection to the carriers MMSC.
Last edited by frals; 2009-10-13 at 12:20.
To implement sending/receiving somewhat properly appearently we are going to need some kernelwork. (I'm still unclear exactly what's needed - I assume it's the different routing and stuff discussed on the wiki page.)
The workaround for sending would be a sharing plugin (and a free MMS-gateway service, I assume).
Receiving... Hopefully your carrier sends you an SMS with a weblink to get the MMS.
I still think its possible to implement MMS sending/receiving with the limitation of having to tear down the current connection and opening a new one to the MMSC. Which would somewhat limit the functionality as true push MMS as it wouldn't function when using the connection, but better than nothing
EDIT: The kernel issue is with establishing a network connection to the carriers MMSC.
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
If you like this post, don't be shy to thank me -->
Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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Last edited by frals; 2009-10-13 at 12:20.
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2009-10-13
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Originally Posted by frals
Does that mean that for now there is no way of getting 'real' MMS Support on the N900?
I still think its possible to implement MMS sending/receiving with the limitation of having to tear down the current connection and opening a new one to the MMSC. Which would somewhat limit the functionality as true push MMS as it wouldn't function when using the connection, but better than nothing
EDIT: The kernel issue is with establishing a network connection to the carriers MMSC.
Like someone else mentioned here, this is not only a useful function for a lot of us but also a pride thing. Im a developer and ill be more than happy to help if someone has already started working on this (ie. is in the process of writing code)
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2009-10-13
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For *real* MMS support, a kernel patch is needed afaik.
I do however still think that it should be possible to implement some pseudo-real way of doing it, and am still working to find out more on how to actually do it. Feel free to help anyway you can :-)
I do however still think that it should be possible to implement some pseudo-real way of doing it, and am still working to find out more on how to actually do it. Feel free to help anyway you can :-)
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
If you like this post, don't be shy to thank me -->
Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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I assume the other package which is interesting for us would be libtelcommon0 (only reference I've found so far to telephony) http://maemo.org/packages/view/libtelcommon0/ (closed as well).
On the other hand the rtcom-eventlogger does contain MMS as one of its default services...
Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
If you like this post, don't be shy to thank me -->