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#51
Originally Posted by Un27Pee View Post
change font size and edit colour underline will be nice...
You can change the font-size via either the +/- toolbar buttons or the change font dialog. I will also be mapping the +/- hardware keys to this action.

As for "edit color underline", I'm not sure what you mean. Text color?

also viewing the text it will be nice to implement a return text entry instead of using the horizontal scrollbar to scroll the long list of text, if it does not give you more unnecessary task, the current state is awesome and thanks for this app, i was having hard time using it but since version 3 i can fully take advantage of the new features.
I'm glad you like 0.3.0, but please elaborate on the return text entry idea, I'm not sure what you mean!

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The return feature in text editing allows you to fit the text into the window instead of a long line which requires a scrollbar to navigate from one to the other, forgot the exact term for that, like fit to width
text colour simply be able the change the colour
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Originally Posted by Un27Pee View Post
The return feature in text editing allows you to fit the text into the window instead of a long line which requires a scrollbar to navigate from one to the other, forgot the exact term for that, like fit to width
The builtin viewer should Word Wrap text automatically.

text colour simply be able the change the colour
I may look into adding that in the future; no promises, though.
 
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Thanks yes word wrap i was searching for that, the text colour is not urgent, i am using leafpad to view so word wrap doesn't work that is why i don't see it will change back.
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Brent, great job on 0.3! I like the design choices you make so well that I hope Nokia hires you to make the final decisions on the next Tablet UI! You managed to keep everything good about such a useful program and add new, good elements without messifying or detracting from what you had already done.

First off, I love the select-vs.-scroll toggle button on the bottom left. (I wish the Notes app and MicroB had that.)

[In GTK, is it impossible to scroll from within the text (as opposed to with the scroll bar)? Scrolling without the scroll bar can be done in MicroB, even though there is no kinetic scrolling. It's not important, but it would be a nice option (so long as the select-vs-scroll toggle worked in GTK like it does in kinetic).]

Also, lm2 commented that QC Viewer didn't do kinetic scroll like Tear. I actually prefer the way your kinetic scroll works (at least for Quick Clip Viewer). Tear's seems faster, but it goes into "blur mode," which makes continuous reading more difficult. The way your scrolling works, the text remains readable while in motion. Excellent.

D-pad scrolling would be nice, as you've said.

Since you already have the font size button icons on the bottom, I don't see the point in adding that functionality to the hardware buttons. (Then again, it wouldn't hurt anything, either.)

It seems to me, though, that your work on the viewer screams for it to be more than a viewer -- that is, it seems to me that you might as well add a Paste icon button to go with the Copy button; and, as long as you're at it, the ability to call up the virtual keyboard and enter text. I wouldn't want that if you didn't have the select/scroll toggle, but since you do ...

I haven't thought about this much, but some way to export might be nice. And the very simplest way to accomplish that would be to have a Select All capability, whether from an icon button or from a dropdown menu. Then, since it's all just text, Select All followed by Copy would allow for a form of export. (Select All would be a lot easier than manually selecting everything if the file is large.)

Finally, you've said you're aiming for a Find function, to which I say Hallelujah! Ideally, Find would be able to work, at user's choice, in a single QC file or across all the QC files; would highlight the character string each time it finds it; would be case-independent (or the user could at least choose that); and could be user-set for Whole-Word-Only or not.

BTW, one of the things I really like about the Viewer is that I use it to read things that MicroB and Tear can't fit in a page-width. I used to copy and paste the text into the Notes app and read it there; but with the ability to turn off the Select function, I prefer to do it in QC Viewer. I keep a QC "Temp Reader" file that I use for that purpose; when I'm done reading the article, I just delete everything; and the Temp Reader file is readily available in the Status Bar to be used again.

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Originally Posted by GeraldKo View Post
Brent, great job on 0.3! I like the design choices you make so well that I hope Nokia hires you to make the final decisions on the next Tablet UI! You managed to keep everything good about such a useful program and add new, good elements without messifying or detracting from what you had already done.
I'm glad you like it! Sometimes it can be a balance between features & simplicity, and I try to pay attention to both.

First off, I love the select-vs.-scroll toggle button on the bottom left. (I wish the Notes app and MicroB had that.)
One thing that always drove me crazy about trying to read a text file on the tablet is that the OSK always seems to come up when it is absolutely unwanted. With QCV, I disabled that.

Another thing that always bothered me was the scroll vs. selection line that most application try to "understand". Like in MicroB, I often find myself scrolling the page when I try to select something and vise-versa. This is when a simple toggle-button is the best, easiest, and most end-user-friendly solution.

[In GTK, is it impossible to scroll from within the text (as opposed to with the scroll bar)? Scrolling without the scroll bar can be done in MicroB, even though there is no kinetic scrolling. It's not important, but it would be a nice option (so long as the select-vs-scroll toggle worked in GTK like it does in kinetic).]
I'm not aware of any GTK widget that does that...again I haven't looked, but am not optimistic.

Also, lm2 commented that QC Viewer didn't do kinetic scroll like Tear. I actually prefer the way your kinetic scroll works (at least for Quick Clip Viewer). Tear's seems faster, but it goes into "blur mode," which makes continuous reading more difficult. The way your scrolling works, the text remains readable while in motion. Excellent.
Great!

D-pad scrolling would be nice, as you've said.
It will be implemented in the next release.

Since you already have the font size button icons on the bottom, I don't see the point in adding that functionality to the hardware buttons. (Then again, it wouldn't hurt anything, either.)
I find myself clicking the +/- hardware buttons over and over again but nothing happens...need to fix, need to fix

It seems to me, though, that your work on the viewer screams for it to be more than a viewer -- that is, it seems to me that you might as well add a Paste icon button to go with the Copy button; and, as long as you're at it, the ability to call up the virtual keyboard and enter text. I wouldn't want that if you didn't have the select/scroll toggle, but since you do ...
I may create a Quick Clip Editor, but that would be much later on once QCV is more complete.

I haven't thought about this much, but some way to export might be nice. And the very simplest way to accomplish that would be to have a Select All capability, whether from an icon button or from a dropdown menu. Then, since it's all just text, Select All followed by Copy would allow for a form of export. (Select All would be a lot easier than manually selecting everything if the file is large.)
Select-all will be implemented in the next version.

Finally, you've said you're aiming for a Find function, to which I say Hallelujah! Ideally, Find would be able to work, at user's choice, in a single QC file or across all the QC files; would highlight the character string each time it finds it; would be case-independent (or the user could at least choose that); and could be user-set for Whole-Word-Only or not.
I'm not sure that find could be used to search across all files, that would be difficult. As for the other options, I'll look into it. Hopefully I can find a few good examples.

BTW, one of the things I really like about the Viewer is that I use it to read things that MicroB and Tear can't fit in a page-width. I used to copy and paste the text into the Notes app and read it there; but with the ability to turn off the Select function, I prefer to do it in QC Viewer. I keep a QC "Temp Reader" file that I use for that purpose; when I'm done reading the article, I just delete everything; and the Temp Reader file is readily available in the Status Bar to be used again.

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Originally Posted by BrentDC View Post
Another thing that always bothered me was the scroll vs. selection line that most application try to "understand". Like in MicroB, I often find myself scrolling the page when I try to select something and vise-versa. This is when a simple toggle-button is the best, easiest, and most end-user-friendly solution.
another option is whats found in tear, and webkit-eal, holding down the menu key and dragging the selection area. but that only really works for the N800 i guess.

still, i kinda like the selection switcher.
 
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I may create a Quick Clip Editor, but that would be much later on once QCV is more complete.

If version 0.3 is not complete then hats down, in fact i want to use this app for cutting and pasting large pages from the web so that i can read later, also to be somewhat a replacement for Doc reader exactly as Evernote does, some ideas can be borrowed from them http://evernote.com/.
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Just as a note, I uploaded Quick Clip to extras-devel yesterday, and, if you have that repository installed on your device, should appear in your installable applications list. I'm going to make a few small changes then push it to Extras. Bleeding edge versions will be available on extras-devel from now on.
 

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I have one suggestion to make, I know I can change where quickclip files are stored myself. But wouldn't it be better to store it in /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/quickclip so that way it's easier for people to email it out. Say email their quickclip notes to Evernote?
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