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Originally Posted by eiffel
What is your problem with this statement? I remember some Nokia's top cheese clearly saying that they intend Symbian/S60 to power middle-tier devices, with Maemo powering the top-tier. The Symbian still stays in Nokia's future though.
The reason given was that "everyone knows that Symbian is the future for Nokia". In this forum we're having trouble making sense of that reason.
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by eiffel
I think they're saying Symbian is the future for the majority of their phones. Maemo might just be the OS for the high end N series. Symbian + Maemo actually solves a problem Apple and Palm have - scalability across a range of phones with different specs. Yet still have applications that can be run on the entire product base including desktops and netbooks?
The reason given was that "everyone knows that Symbian is the future for Nokia". In this forum we're having trouble making sense of that reason.
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2009-08-10
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I think most users don't know the difference, and an OLED of that size would be expensive. I think they'd rather have a £30 cheaper device than one boasting an OLED screen.
It's probably a given that those Netbooks will run Maemo too.
A portable tablet/phone is a very different form factor and needs a different interface, so a tailored distro makes sense. Also there is no large established distribution in the mobile space yet. So Maemo for mobiles makes a lot of sense.
The indicator that you should be looking at is how many (mid-long term) developers are committed to support that system. read: think they can make money by developing for that system.
I think Maemo will become more of a tool that is useful for developers rather than a platform that needs to make a profit on its own. It may be more developer/producer oriented, but it is also a lot more powerful because of it. I think that is what will make the platform grow faster than anything we've seen yet.
For most nomal people (not the gadget fanbase) if they need to buy an expensive phone, they want a phone that is most useful for them. That is why email-centered Blackberries are so popular and the Nokia camera phones or the webbrowsing iphone. They all do something extremely well.
A developer oriented platform provides the power to users to use the device for the things THEY find useful.
Nokia's next focus probably would be the Ovi store
Linux has one of the nicest software distribution methods with the repositories. I think that adding a second way to install software using something like OVI would only confuse users.
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2009-08-10
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#56
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Originally Posted by eiffel
Android is an open source stack targetting smartphones and offered to device manufacturers. Symbian has fulfilled the same purpose for certain partners and now is moving to the Symbian Foundation setiing with a full open source stack targetting also smartphone devices manufacturers..
The reason given was that "everyone knows that Symbian is the future for Nokia". In this forum we're having trouble making sense of that reason.
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2009-08-10
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I wonder about Android. Especially with Ubuntu working on running Android through something like a widget layer. If it would be possible to do on the n900. =P
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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#58
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Originally Posted by qgil
I once saw a Samsung running Symbian.
Symbian has fulfilled the same purpose for certain partners
I'm still seeing a therapist about it.
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2009-08-10
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#59
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Originally Posted by tso
Heroic but ultimately fruitless, same as their efforts with WinMobile.
i think htc's efforts with hero's interface disagrees with you there...
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by Bernard
Do you have any data to support the claim about the # of open source developers?
True, but the Open source developer community is large compared to the current smartphone developer communities for any platform (WinMo, S60, even iPhone). And they have their own business models regardless of the Maemo development / success.
I think Maemo will become more of a tool that is useful for developers rather than a platform that needs to make a profit on its own. It may be more developer/producer oriented, but it is also a lot more powerful because of it. I think that is what will make the platform grow faster than anything we've seen yet.
For most nomal people (not the gadget fanbase) if they need to buy an expensive phone, they want a phone that is most useful for them. That is why email-centered Blackberries are so popular and the Nokia camera phones or the webbrowsing iphone. They all do something extremely well.
A developer oriented platform provides the power to users to use the device for the things THEY find useful.
Personally, I think opensource developers community alone is far from enough to keep a truly mainstream platform afloat.
The gap between the number of developers vs user is so big, that the ability for 'users to scratch their own itch' doesn't matter at all (yet) to gain that critical mass. 'Open source' is not known as a 'solution' (yet) in the mainstream right now, unfortunately.
Linux has one of the nicest software distribution methods with the repositories. I think that adding a second way to install software using something like OVI would only confuse users.
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