@me2000
You still failed to realize that the game arena where Nokia is playing is much bigger than what you are seeing. Do you understand that Symbian will stay for quite long in market. Probably it won´t get so big anymore as Meego start to take it´s own share and also competition tightens on high end phones. FACT is that there is right now no competition on low end market on Nokia. With symbian and s40 they can use really low powered and cheap electornics. That OS is optimized for that kind of hardware.

Symbian was meant to be used on low powered cheap non touchscreen phones. Those phones will not vanish in couple of years.

And about your trends. If Nokia manages to pump cheap phones with Symbian^3 on them to people who can't afford on iphone and other high end and expensive phones then you will have huge user base and "trend".

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Do you even read links what you put in your message. I just read the first one and realized that in the end is exactly stuff what I´m trying to say to you:
"...People will go on buying Symbian powered phones because they are cheap, widespread (they likely already know how to interact with the device), and they provide the closer experience to a modern smartphone that they can afford..."
Right tool for right job.

That's true and Nokia's Symbian is not the only OS which failed to adopt to touchscreen technologies. If you take a look at RIM you'll see similar pattern with an exception that Blackberries were mostly intended for business use where touch interface was unnecessary until iPhone . RIM is struggling to create touchscreen phones ( Storm was a complete failure) and get more market share as well

Customer's taste changes all the time and companies sometimes fail to adopt.

As much as I loved my N95 8Gb I wanted to have a touchphone N900 was my choice

Maybe I'm stupid, but I'd rather be Nokia than any other mobile company at the moment. They have implemented a great strategy, are gaining momentum, and have the foundation to lead for another half decade. Not sure its not the competitors that need saving.

As for your plan:
I totally agree with you on Qt. I say contribute a port to Android and RIM as well. I want Qt to be ubiquitous. Proprietary app ecosystems need to die a painful death in favor of cross platform technologies.

Ovi Store may eventually become a media portal more than an app store. I'll be impressed when it includes Nokia's music and video catalog for streams or download, and is on other manufacturers devices and OSes. Also, they have to get more of the available apps listed in Ovi. JBak Taskman, Open Video Hub, and Coreplayer come to mind...

I have little doubt Symbian will be amazing. They took their time to avoid another appless code break like with 3rd Edition. 3 years is enough to get things together, and the feature set will become a factor in the maturing US market.

MeeGo will sell itself based on its lack of competition. It has enough support from the industry. Which will help the app base. I just hope it gets some great camera and form factor love.

Nokia needs to convert dumbphones to lower end smartphones, not make more dummies. It gets lower cost consumers into your service umbrella, and makes it more probable they'll buy a more expensive model next time.

US visibility is all up to the carriers. I hope they can negotiate an iPhone-like marketing deal. They have the services, only rivaled by Google and Microsoft, and neither are close to dominating the market.

The portfolio has already been shortened to fewer devices. I'm waiting on a VOIP and music streaming service, maybe a buy of MySpace, but so far I like what they're doing.

Newsflash!! Nokia sells more touchscreen converged devices than anyone on earth. "Failed to adapt"? Symbian was touch long ago with UIQ.

Pretty short sight and offbase to say what their marketshare is when I'm addressing what the marketshare will be. I'd love to entertain your reasoning on why they will be able to maintain or increase their market share, that would be a great post inside of well you know, what I quoted above. Thanks.

It's very underpowered when your consider 2 things: It was late to market palm pre and the 3gs share similiar if slightly more powerful hardware. When the hardware refresh comes your either behind the curve or upsetting your userbase if you refresh and drop support, sound familiar ? point 2- software powers the hardware and nokia's is a mess right now and when you include hardware in a device but refuse to support it not only is that stupid but it's worse then not having the feature at all. Now a competitor can take advantage of your bullet point(s) because essentially that's all it is if the feature(s) doesn't work.

Webos has a pretty dedicated following most have nothing but praise for the OS. All HP has to dois provide the proper hardware to run it on for it's true potential to be realize, well that and proper marketing. So if hp\palm's new low end device becomes a 600-800mhz webos device you don't like it's chances ?? Consider the deeply discounted 30 dollar Verison pre what of a slight tweak to hardware to make it cheaper to produce and give it a bit more headroom is webOS's lowend ? that be simply and nice

Wow, such a short statement has so many fallacies. First it's not a either or situation, you do well to restrain from creating false dilemma or misrepresent my views. To clarify I doubt because of my opinion Nokia is gonna read my post and say "pack it up guys, it's over slick just posted it and it's not looking good" No. They will continue with the plans they have and I remember hearing something about 2011. So ms who is launching products THIS YEAR HAS TIME to get competitive win7 mob looks solid but unfinished but to it's credit when it comes to development tools nokia can't compare to ms and it's support it provides to devs.


Oh did you think kin was their high end ? Interesting


Not gonna explain that to you it's easy enough to figure out as is everything else I've posted if you think and consider, instead of knee jerk reactions.

I am not pro apple say what we will they are succeeding, mostly because companies are stupid and make dumb moves or do nothing.

what goes up must come down

You might need to explain this one

This is something that has been long speculated with, however, in reality, the long term gains are rather dubios. ARM is not a factory, it’s IP. If you buy it (or, to be precise, gain a controlling share in it’s future), you suddenly made a whole lot of enemies. Sure, it’s a short term win, but ARM *DOES* need the license fees collected from the millions/billions of ARM devices and the plethora of semiconductor manufacturers around to be able to grow. If you just make it your own chip-dev, you essentially killed it on the long term and sent everyone screaming into Intel’s arms - you will be king for a while, but Intel dominance will explode and in a product cycle or two ARM will be worthless in the smartphone arena.

This thread is way above me.....anyway

Quoting the Bloomberg article, [some of you declared it to be farce ]

"Nokia, based in Espoo, Finland, spent almost six times as much as Apple on R&D last year, yet has failed to develop a device with the same mass appeal as the multi-application iPhone."
"investors said. Nokia’s annual R&D budget of about $7.7 billion is 14 percent of revenue, compared with Apple’s spending of $1.3 billion, or 3 percent of sales."
"“The best way to leverage Nokia’s strengths is to be a mass producer of cheaper, good quality products, which would rapidly lower their R&D costs,” said Pedersen."

Going by the above, if Nokia slashes R&D budgets, guess the question shd be ''Who will save Meego"?

@Slick...
Your reply #65 is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start - nor do I have the time or inclination. Let's just say either you misunderstand me or I think you're just plain wrong. :-)

I believe analysts and bloggers overestimate the "touch-screen" factor at the moment. It's a hype, such as the clamshell phones were a few lifetimes ago until one day somebody woke up and said: "Hey, that's nonsense... Wouldn't it be so much easier if i could operate this phone without having to open it before? Just like in the old days?"

It's pretty much the same with touch screens. They are modern, they're the cool thing to have, they're different than the devices our parents had two decades ago... But then you have to cover them from bright sunlight, start an application and carefully press or swipe across the right spots on a flat surface in order to make a simple phone call! - And I'm not even starting to talk about text input... One day, somebody will wake up in the morning an remember: "Hey, isn't that nonsense? I used to be able to call my better half simply by pressing and holding "6" on my phone. I didn't even have to look at the phone in order to do this. Why can't I... - Why did they waste all this space on the front of this device with glass?" Then we'll have phones again.

The current situation only means that those who created the touch screen craze benfit from in. Sure they would. But that doesn't mean companies need to focus on touch devices only to be successful in the future. And of course it doesn't mean that a company's long-term success should be judged by their ability to produce compelling touch-screen devices.