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2010-05-02
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#72
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Originally Posted by jakiman
If you read my post it said go look up the SDK fixes and if you research properly it is a very interesting read to learn just what QT4.6 is all about and what it will in fact mean for the OS of the 900.
Without PR1.2, it seems we will never get any decent commercial apps in OVI store nor any new Qt4.6 based apps. So it's a big deal. Also, 300+ bug fixes especially when some of them are quite major is a big deal. Most of us already know what PR1.2 is. So don't say it as if you are one of rare few who does.
You know not everyone is a dummy and can read / research for themselves so STOP nit picking ok.
This forum is way too full of war mongers and it is NOW showing !.
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2010-05-02
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Originally Posted by ysss
I reported your last post and i strongly suggest you keep your war mongering comments to yourself.
Some of us may suggest you bother other communities too.
Ps: I did answer your 'question' on my last post. Then again, most of your questions seem rhetorical in nature and mostly designed to annoy.
Now i asked in a nice way GO AWAY bother someone else ok.
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2010-05-02
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#74
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Nothing reportable in the post.
I reported your last post and i strongly suggest you keep your war mongering comments to yourself.
Now i asked in a nice way GO AWAY bother someone else ok.
"war mongering"??? Where ARE you getting these notions???
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2010-05-02
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#75
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I will only say that people ask quick and quality releases. Can't have both, period. I would rather have quality and late releases. In fact, if anything, what Nokia needs is quality and polish.
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2010-05-02
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Originally Posted by mrojas
And this is the divide.
I will only say that people ask quick and quality releases. Can't have both, period. I would rather have quality and late releases. In fact, if anything, what Nokia needs is quality and polish.
I'm of the "release early, release often" crowd and wish for faster releases even with more bugs.
So obviously Nokia, and no company in the world, can really appease us both. Unfortunately because, even if Nokia (or generic company) setup a "devel" repository, for example - just for people like me that don't mind breaking their phones randomly... somehow - the people that want the polish and shine and late releases find their way there..
And then complain. No easy solution unfortunately
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2010-05-02
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#77
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I don't mind waiting longer for a more polished or featureful release, provided I'm somewhere comfortable enough. Right now, I'm not happy with my N900's base functionality that I leave it on my nightstand most of the time.
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2010-05-02
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
The biggest drawback I can see for Maemo re "release early, release often" is that it's been wedded tightly to a single device (per version anyway) controlled by a single company, and Nokia never really built up the proper infrastructure for dealing with the consequences of heavy user testing in that sort of scenario.
So obviously Nokia, and no company in the world, can really appease us both.
I think it's safe to agree with what was said earlier about what would likely happen if testing was opened wide today: people would ignore warnings in the hopes of getting features and fixes before "everyone else" and all hell would break loose. Nokia would be blamed for the chaos.
That said, I don't see the same sort of problem for a somewhat wider testing protocol that insists on a few hoops for would-be testers. When I tested heavily for Microsoft, I had to take tests, fill out questionaires, submit a reasonable amount of bugs, etc-- or be dropped if I was even admitted in the first place.
OS testing is not for the fickle and faint of heart.
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2010-05-02
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I stopped testing Ubuntu alpha releases for that reason lol.
OS testing is not for the fickle and faint of heart.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2010-05-02
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Originally Posted by Texrat
While I agree to a point - I personally wouldn't go through it if it detailed that much.
That said, I don't see the same sort of problem for a somewhat wider testing protocol that insists on a few hoops for would-be testers. When I tested heavily for Microsoft, I had to take tests, fill out questionaires, submit a reasonable amount of bugs, etc-- or be dropped if I was even admitted in the first place.
OS testing is not for the fickle and faint of heart.
I'm someone that can break a device and find a bug and then even help troubleshoot or fix it -- but I'm not about to apply for a job just to get devel software
.However, I could see Nokia putting up an online 'test" that validates a fundamental understanding of Linux and development and assuming you pass getting a special URL to download "untested" software from.
There would have to be a user-based infrastructure for that though, in case someone shares their URL they can disable the account.
But - more to the point of these forums and the repo's (something people here *should* have control over) - Our current system of 10-day quarantine, 10 votes, and reset every promotion is very anti-"release early, release often" philosophy. If you're releasing patches and updates often enough.. you'll never get an app into Extras.
So it just seems that the entire Maemo (and by extension Nokia) atmosphere is against the philosophy that I tend to prefer.
Ps: I did answer your 'question' on my last post. Then again, most of your questions seem rhetorical in nature and mostly designed to annoy.
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