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How do we get correct information in the first post without OP?
Focus on the device please in this thread before I make the whole forum go off topic
Yes, I can do that.
Focus on the device please in this thread before I make the whole forum go off topic
Yes, I can do that.
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I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...
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2011-07-10
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Originally Posted by abbra
It says "senior architect",
Perhaps you looked at different linkedin profile? I wasn't an engineer, it was a bit different.
I assumed that meant you were a lead software engineer/programmer @Nok.
My apologies....
Anyway, if you don't take a word of a person who worked on the platform and the devices, that's up to you. I never hidden my credentials on this web site and never had made a statement that I don't stand behind. However, you probably could understand that even after departing my former employer, I'm bound with certain chains with regards to exact details. What can be revealed is something that you could otherwise find yourself from large track of our open source activities and Nokia's already published materials anyway.
But please, at least answer us this...
Why on earth didn't you guys implement at least 720p-out?
IIRC, even 2yrs ago 480i composite-out was nothing special.
Were you guys oblivious to what competitors were doing?
Don't you think it's counter-intuitive to devise a phone that does 720p recording*, but can't do 720p-out?
Yes built-in WiFi + DLNA, & USB-OTG can help mitigate this to some extent.
And they're both useful features in their own right...
But neither are a suitable replacement for decent video-out.
I think the job you guys have done "overall" is very solid/excellent.
But when it comes to hardware there's some areas where you've been very conservative, even backward.
And this is alienating/bewildering many potential customers.
*even that's anaemic by today's standards, but at least it'll be "good quality" 720p capture.
I hope it is not viewed as a personal attack...
Originally Posted by Dave999
Yes you can, yes indeed you can... *shudder*
<SNIP> before I make the whole forum go off topic
Don't worry I'm wrapping it up ASAP.
I definitely don't want to unleash your fearsome trolling abilities
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2011-07-10
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Sigh... waste of time asking....
Just got a PM from Abbra saying he can't (legally) address this post.
As they're questions for Nokia Product Management.
Understandable... but still hugely frustrating
Last edited by jalyst; 2011-07-27 at 18:27.
Just got a PM from Abbra saying he can't (legally) address this post.
As they're questions for Nokia Product Management.
Understandable... but still hugely frustrating
Last edited by jalyst; 2011-07-27 at 18:27.
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2011-07-10
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Originally Posted by DeeGee
I googled this kind of thing: http://www.ittiam.com/en/Embedded/Pl...0p-Bundle.aspx
There has been 3rd party made decoders for OMAP that can handle bigger resolutions/profiles than the ones provided by TI. I guess Nokia hasn't dished the money to buy them and are using the TI ones.
Well, I know that's the matter of reencoding but if I could avoid that...
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2011-07-10
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Originally Posted by jalyst
I think asking such questions from a _software_ architect is just rude. Do you think the software people are responsible for the hardware design?
Why on earth didn't you guys implement at least 720p-out?
IIRC, even 2yrs ago 480i composite-out was nothing special.
Were you guys oblivious to what competitors were doing?
Don't you think it's counter-intuitive to devise a phone that does 720p recording*, but can't do 720p-out?
BTW OMAP3 isn't actually designed for the use case you desire. Making it work would likely involve extra hardware and some interesting software gymnastics, and even then the result would probably be less than stellar.
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2011-07-10
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Please refrain from threats and pretending you are a thug.
How do we get correct information in the first post without OP?
Focus on the device please in this thread before I make the whole forum go off topic
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2011-07-10
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Yes, I'll maintain this as best I can. Been very busy the last week or so, but I'll keep an eye out.
@shallimus
I just started a similar (albeit w/a subtly diff. focus) thread here
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...59#post1047959
I was not aware you'd already stared one...
If you intend to actively maintain this one, then I'm happy to ditch it.
So as to avoid a "division of labour"? Lemme know.
Cheers
Updated FMTX section and added DLNA mention, but - unless I've missed it - I still don't see a clear explanation how how DLNA can perform the same job as HDMI out (my understanding is that it cannot - please confirm/correct using citations wherever possible if you are in a position to do so).
Please let me know if there's anything else I can update in Post #1 to make it more useful/accurate (I'm sure there's lots).
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Sailfish want list: calendar bugfixes, glanceable agenda, Swype or similar
Evolution continues (but we're still pre-Cambrian)
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2011-07-11
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Originally Posted by syrjala
Um yes, I think he would know...
I think asking such questions from a _software_ architect is just rude. Do you think the software people are responsible for the hardware design?
But he's already explained to me why he can't go into more detail, & I accept that without qualm.
BTW OMAP3 isn't actually designed for the use case you desire. Making it work would likely involve extra hardware and some interesting software gymnastics, and even then the result would probably be less than stellar.
But not in the way you assert...
There's no reason MHL 720p-out functionality couldn't be added to TI's 'reference design' SoC.
Whether there's enough grunt to output to 720p displays without grinding everything else to a halt.
Is where it gets unclear...
Last edited by jalyst; 2011-07-11 at 07:21.
Anyway, if you don't take a word of a person who worked on the platform and the devices, that's up to you. I never hidden my credentials on this web site and never had made a statement that I don't stand behind. However, you probably could understand that even after departing my former employer, I'm bound with certain chains with regards to exact details. What can be revealed is something that you could otherwise find yourself from large track of our open source activities and Nokia's already published materials anyway.
I hope it is not viewed as a personal attack...