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2011-10-12 , 21:58
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#51
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
We still have to see how it goes in end-consumer devices, but this looks promising.
I think that the warranty voided warning is there exactly for consumer devices -- doesn't seem likely they'd put that for warranty-less N950s
 

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#52
Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
I think that the warranty voided warning is there exactly for consumer devices -- doesn't seem likely they'd put that for warranty-less N950s
If I understood correctly, flashing/booting kernel that is not signed by nokia triggers the open mode even within harmattan?
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2011-10-12 , 22:19
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#53
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
If I understood correctly, flashing/booting kernel that is not signed by nokia triggers the open mode even within harmattan?
Exactly. That's the "news" part, as it was not allowed by beta1. (In fact, I couldn't boot any unsigned kernel at all).

The fact that Aegis enters the "official" open mode means that many apps automatically stop checking for privileges, like D-Bus, etc. and there's no need to make individual patches for each of them.
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2011-10-12 , 22:31
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Do you think there is a "write once" hardware flag to implement this warranty void?
 

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Originally Posted by buchanmilne View Post
If it is a subsidised phone, with the subsidy given on the basis of additional revenue that the operator will derive from your (restricted) use of the device (e.g. billable communication, licensed media etc.), then it is not your device.
I'm not sure how this works anywhere other than in the USA, but in my experience in the USA if you buy a subsidized phone you sign up for a contract. If you then use your phone on a different network, you STILL have to pay the contract, so there's no rational justification other than needless control to lock your phone - if you get another contract you're still paying your 40-60$ per month for the contract that subsidized your phone costs, so no, at no point does your phone provider lose money or not recover their costs if you use your phone unlocked.

Just wanted to point out the folly in saying you don't own the phone - technically you don't /own/ a house when you take out a mortgage on it until the mortgage is paid off either, or a car until you're done paying the car's cost off, but no one says the loan issuer can tell you what you can do inside/to your house or where you can drive your car.
 

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#56
Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Exactly. That's the "news" part, as it was not allowed by beta1. (In fact, I couldn't boot any unsigned kernel at all).
That was a bug back then, FWIW
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
Just wanted to point out the folly in saying you don't own the phone -
Corporations will need that (they have good reasons, like enforcing exchange provision).

Other users should have the full control at least unlockable.
 

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2011-10-14 , 23:50
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#58
Originally Posted by erendorn View Post
Do you think there is a "write once" hardware flag to implement this warranty void?
i think this is an important question. Can they tell if someone was using an unsigned kernal and reflashed back to stock build?
is the warranty only void if it's bricked with an unsigned kernal etc. hopefully there will be more light shed about this soon.
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2011-12-13 , 14:24
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#59
There is now an open mode kernel for Harmattan
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Originally Posted by SD69 View Post
There is now an open mode kernel for Harmattan
So... This is good news? Are we gonna get what we want

More comments needed here...
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