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2012-04-22
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Originally Posted by almamo
We know.
The Lumia 900 isn't seen as a special device
Originally Posted by almamo
As are many people on this forum.
I'm really disappointed in how the L900 was brought to the market...
Originally Posted by almamo
Quite.
..or maybe it's just simply the phone which isn't good enough.
Maybe it wasn't a great idea to decide to keep losing money on these handsets until the OS can be made to support the hardware and features that Nokia needs to add?
Or maybe the OS UI/UX isn't quite attractive enough, aesthetically or otherwise? Maybe that hasn't even been identified as a problem?
Or maybe people just don't like the idea of Windows on a mobile phone? Or maybe the next closest user experience to a "modernised alternative to Symbian" is what users wanted and that is not Windows phone (i.e. there is no familiarity or psychological migration or connection for old Nokia users to Windows phone)? Maybe Android is specifically targeted towards this market share and that is why they are currently more successful?
Or maybe Nokia should have only 'added' Windows phone as one of its platforms, to its product offering lineup, keeping its pre-existing strategy, and only fully migrated in future IF the OS is ready and has gained market share/mind share?
Maybe by the time Windows Phone 8 is released, the competition will have moved on and they will still be suffering the 'feature non-competitiveness' that is often picked-up on in reviews?
Maybe.
Last edited by caa; 2012-04-22 at 17:15.
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2012-04-22
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If I knew Elop was going to destroy symbian after a nice UI update in the future I would have never started down the road of Nokia phones buying the N95 8gb and the N8 I would have probably done more research and looked for a Japanese phone or something like that that had a lot of equipment in it.
If I knew Elop was going to end the maemo line in the future right when it got to step 5 and went mainstream. I would have never bought the N810, the N900 and the N9.
If I knew ahead of time a MS trojan horse was going to take the steering wheel of Nokia because he wants to play monopoly with Microsoft and steal our step five design. I would have not considered Nokia at all.
I remember when Android was just an emulator and I downloaded it and was trying it out. I probably would have went that direction and probably will now that Elop has trashed the competing Nokia OS's in favor of a monopolistic driven software company. So I think Elop has achieved the exact opposite of what he claims to be aiming for in public.
Furthermore I really dislike that winblows 7 UI, it looks like a one home screen with big ugly tiles. I don't think I'll like windows late either except the parts that they stole from our maemo interface.
And I do not believe this "we like open source" is sincere http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/openn...ault.aspx#home
If I knew Elop was going to end the maemo line in the future right when it got to step 5 and went mainstream. I would have never bought the N810, the N900 and the N9.
If I knew ahead of time a MS trojan horse was going to take the steering wheel of Nokia because he wants to play monopoly with Microsoft and steal our step five design. I would have not considered Nokia at all.
I remember when Android was just an emulator and I downloaded it and was trying it out. I probably would have went that direction and probably will now that Elop has trashed the competing Nokia OS's in favor of a monopolistic driven software company. So I think Elop has achieved the exact opposite of what he claims to be aiming for in public.
Furthermore I really dislike that winblows 7 UI, it looks like a one home screen with big ugly tiles. I don't think I'll like windows late either except the parts that they stole from our maemo interface.
And I do not believe this "we like open source" is sincere http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/openn...ault.aspx#home
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2012-04-22
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Originally Posted by caa
Well, why don't Nokia/MS say SOMETHING about WP8 being available (or not) on the existing Lumias? I take this as a NO with 80 % probability.
Maybe by the time Windows Phone 8 is released, the competition will have moved on and they will still be suffering the 'feature non-competitiveness' that is often picked-up on in reviews?
Elop is not the problem. Elop is just a bi-product, a sort of inevitable waste or poo that drips from the Nokia Board, like sweat from the crotch of a dirty old drunk in a Finnish sauna.
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2012-04-22
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Originally Posted by szopin
From Facebook and Google+ reactions (from people I don't know but come across my postings), it looks to me as if there are a LOOOOT of very disappointed people who very much dislike Elop. So, yeah--it looks like it's just a vocal out on the general Internet as it is here, if I'm to go by social network standards.
Good point, word of mouth marketing does go a long way. Though Nokia's competitors might have worked on that (since over a year those Elop threads do not want to die and by complaining about Nokia's CEO decisions, hope not as vocally as is going on here, womm for Nokia sort of loses credibility)
Originally Posted by Mize
LMAO!
Seriously?
Nokia abandons all current products, lays off thousands and announces they will use MS exclusively and you don't think that was news anyone but techies heard about? I own one business in the US and two in China and my employees on both continents sure heard about it. It made all the Chinese & US news outlets...ostrich much?
Originally Posted by daperl
You're asking a very good set of questions! I wish Nokia would ask PRECISELY those questions to the market and to all those increasing number of customers who are NO LONGER buying their products. It would appear they have a habit of not listening to a LOT of far wiser people, too.
I thought they already did that. I have a Lumia 800 in my hand as a result. It's a very nice device. And although it doesn't have a front facing camera, it looks and feels better than an iPod and an iPhone, and it's nothing like an n800. Did Nokia do something wrong? If so, is there anything else you would like me to tell the board? But I warn you, they have a habit of not listening to me.
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
He is spot on
Originally Posted by specc
Well, why don't Nokia/MS say SOMETHING about WP8 being available (or not) on the existing Lumias? I take this as a NO with 80 % probability.
Elop is not the problem. Elop is just a bi-product, a sort of inevitable waste or poo that drips from the Nokia Board, like sweat from the crotch of a dirty old drunk in a Finnish sauna.
You're welcome!
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2012-04-22
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...And Nokia decided to go Windows 8 for their new upcoming tablet. This is going to be a joy to watch as it nosedives RIGHT into the same junkpile the Zune ended up.
Windows 8 tablets: Not open for business
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking...-business/2261
From his Google+ comment about his article:
"You know, I really don't care for Windows 8 much, but as I explained in this story I did see it having one spot where it might shine: On business tablets where Active Directory (AD) support would make it a natural for Windows shops and for companies that are taking a jaundiced view of the whole "bring your own device" (BYOD) movement. Well, guess what MSFT isn't putting in its tablets? AD. "
"Amazing."
Windows 8 tablets: Not open for business
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking...-business/2261
From his Google+ comment about his article:
"You know, I really don't care for Windows 8 much, but as I explained in this story I did see it having one spot where it might shine: On business tablets where Active Directory (AD) support would make it a natural for Windows shops and for companies that are taking a jaundiced view of the whole "bring your own device" (BYOD) movement. Well, guess what MSFT isn't putting in its tablets? AD. "
"Amazing."
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2012-04-23
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Enterprise support on WP7 is somewhat lacking, now no AD on Win8?
Seriously dumb decisions being made right now.
Seriously dumb decisions being made right now.
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2012-04-23
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Originally Posted by gerbick
How does it differ from iPad? Everything that comes to the market will be compared to iPad
Enterprise support on WP7 is somewhat lacking, now no AD on Win8?
Seriously dumb decisions being made right now.
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2012-04-23
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Perhaps because Microsoft created Active Directory and Microsoft Exchange?
How does it differ from iPad? Everything that comes to the market will be compared to iPad
I mean... they (Microsoft) produce enterprise products and they're not there now. They're missing an entire sector, one that Blackberry pretty much still owns and iPads/iPhones now do support.
It's called sales opportunities. WP7 and Win8 tablet will need each and every advantage they can muster over the rapid selling iPhone/iPad.
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2012-04-23
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That will be a disaster if true. People use tablets in lieu of computers these days.
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A nice design and LTE won't make it superior (for most people LTE doesn't matter anyways). Even though MS/Nokia hopes to sell lots of L900 with the deep price, it could have a negative side effect. A cheap price can also make a product look cheap or make people think it would be cheap quality. I'm really disappointed in how the L900 was brought to the market...or maybe it's just simply the phone which isn't good enough.
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