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Lumiaman	2013-08-28 , 18:59
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Originally Posted by strongm

I think it a quote from an article written 6 years after the fact based on anonomous contributions from ex-Nokia employees who were pretty much all in the MAemo camp, and thus likely to be a bit jaundiced in their views about Symbian.

Whilst they have some (perhaps many) legitimate gripes about the politics that did for Maemo, the quote is substantially misleading.

Here's an alternative point of view from Michal Jerz of my-symbian.com:

His point really - and keeping vaguely on topic concerning share price - is that Nokia made some poor management decisions that had long term repercussions.

Michael's point is interesting as he pushes the fork in the road much earlier than 2005 and 2006, and above comment probably refers to the Symbian that was available in 2005 and 2006. Nonetheless, he makes interesting points in pretty much pushing the blame to pre-2005 NOKIA.

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	daperl	2013-08-28 , 19:13
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Nokias new motto could be:

"If you thought we sucked before, wait until Elop starts making decisions"

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N9: Go white or go home

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Lumiaman	2013-08-28 , 19:38
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Originally Posted by daperl

Nokias new motto could be:

"If you thought we sucked before, wait until Elop starts making decisions"

I got better one Craaper:

"We sucked soooo bad before, that even Elop cant get us out of this hole"

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uTMY	2013-08-28 , 20:08
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@Lumiaman

Are you really trying to suggest that what amounts to little more than corporate in fighting and empire building around 6 years earlier in some way accounts for the catastrophic failures of Nokia under Elop?

I think the phrase you are looking for is

Clutching at straws.

rgds

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Lumiaman	2013-08-28 , 20:14
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"We sucked soooo bad before, that even Elop cant get us out of this hole"

hey it even rhymes...

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	Artyom	2013-08-28 , 21:14
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lameiaman will never understand.

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switch-hitter	2013-08-28 , 21:19
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman

Here is what I consider a pretty interesting retrospective review of what happened at NOKIA.

And here's an illuminating blog post from a named source who worked on MeeGo.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman

I vote switchman to be the new CEO of NOKIA and to resurrect the all mighty SYMBIAN!!!

There'd be no resurrection of Symbian.

Read the above blog to get some idea why MeeGo, Android, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, etc... are all Linux based.

Digia have announced the next version of Qt will fully support development for Android and iOS. So that's Android, iOS, Sailfish OS, Ubuntu Touch, BB10 plus any desktop you care to think of.

Mmm... Linux + Qt + NOKIA hardware

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Lumiaman	2013-08-28 , 23:42
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter

And here's an illuminating blog post from a named source who worked on MeeGo.

There'd be no resurrection of Symbian.

Read the above blog to get some idea why MeeGo, Android, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, etc... are all Linux based.

Digia have announced the next version of Qt will fully support development for Android and iOS. So that's Android, iOS, Sailfish OS, Ubuntu Touch, BB10 plus any desktop you care to think of.

Mmm... Linux + Qt + NOKIA hardware

But why not? According to you Symbian is the strongest OS in the history of mankind. Symbian still rules the world in 2/3 of your brain.
So why wouldnt King of Symbian resurrect it????? OH my....I guess Symbian wasnt that hot after all.

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Lumiaman	2013-08-28 , 23:43
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter

And here's an illuminating blog post from a named source who worked on MeeGo.

There'd be no resurrection of Symbian.

Read the above blog to get some idea why MeeGo, Android, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, etc... are all Linux based.

Digia have announced the next version of Qt will fully support development for Android and iOS. So that's Android, iOS, Sailfish OS, Ubuntu Touch, BB10 plus any desktop you care to think of.

Mmm... Linux + Qt + NOKIA hardware

The above blog is a joke of someones conversation with Elop. See the article I gave above that was based on multiple resources and trumps anything you have shown so far.