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2015-05-21
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#12
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
It's open source (or if not just check it's qml code this IS open source for sure as modified it to my liking). It pretty much is a widget, incorrectly previously named it network switcher, yeah it acts as any other not used in a while program sliding like on imageboard page, but:
I stand corrected! You CAN create an app that is just a cover that appears at some random location on the multitasking screen and allows you to flip two switches! How utterly amazing!
(And yeah, I gotta wonder how they've perverted the Sailfish UI to avoid allowing their app to be displayed in full-screen mode...)
2.0 no more sliding (and I'm not sure it is a great idea, maybe on tablet), so you can run it and then move that live cover (this is what the thread is all about) to bottom left to stay there (it displays network strength values live, unlike any WP live tile(edited from: cover) btw
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2015-05-22
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#13
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Originally Posted by szopin
so if i don't get wrong its possibile actually to make a live cover wich show not only white text on trasparency cover, or as usually a minization of the full app page, but even a live cover wich show a completely other set of information? for e.g to have a live cover of an app of news wich show the latest news in an cover with a coloured or transparent area and text setted like you want (in practise i mean a wp live tile)??
It's open source (or if not just check it's qml code this IS open source for sure as modified it to my liking). It pretty much is a widget, incorrectly previously named it network switcher, yeah it acts as any other not used in a while program sliding like on imageboard page, but:
2.0 no more sliding (and I'm not sure it is a great idea, maybe on tablet), so you can run it and then move that live cover (this is what the thread is all about) to bottom left to stay there (it displays network strength values live, unlike any WP live tile(edited from: cover) btw
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2015-05-22
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Yup, pretty much, Medard is an example of app with graphical image on the cover, for the news pic, plenty of apps display live updates. You'd probably have to patch homescreen to prevent it being placed 'randomly' (very likely such patch that stops 'sliding' is already existing), sadly don't think you can increase size that much, but there was patch forcing bigger covers (2x2) so this could also be useful. Sadly patching that much is a bit of an inconvenience and probably not how an app 'should' work/behave, but maybe some way on the tablet you could patch half of of the screen for such widgets and leave the rest for multitasking (you also get interaction possibility, like dismiss this news item by swiping left, go next by swiping right etc so with no time limitation as on WP would make it even better)
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2015-05-22
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#15
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i will try medard, there is any news app like that? it would bhe great
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2015-05-22
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#16
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The amount of patching needed really makes it not an app that would combine all features. If someone writes an app for say bbc, with live updates, you could apply above mentioned patches (or write them) to behave like a live tile, still not sure if placing it on the multitask view is the correct way to go, check meecast widget/plugin for lockscreen, this would seem like a better place for such thing (at least in my usage case I switch between apps more often than would glance on new snippets of info)
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2015-05-22
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#17
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Originally Posted by szopin
WHat do you refer to? i would rahter have them on multitasking view because it recalls concept of tiles. maybe locking sliding of cover.
ll not sure if placing it on the multitask view is the correct way to go, check meecast widget/plugin for lockscreen, this would seem like a better place for such thing (at least in my usage case I switch between apps more often than would glance on new snippets of info)
However i think that it is a feature that could be implemented in order to let system have all possibilities others os have. Ok,is open, but something build by default it is ever better than patching. For e g take situation, it gives you instrument and you can combine it for you use. I start on boot calendar and other stuff that i use like clipboard to remeber tasks.
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2015-05-22
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Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt
WP has multitask (lol) view in totally different place if you noticed, by cluttering multitask view you make it harder to switch between apps, which is best part of jolla. In WP live tiles are on the primary app drawer view, so maybe better to have those 'widgets' tiles hidden on left or right sideswipe like the partner space (depending on handedness)
WHat do you refer to? i would rahter have them on multitasking view because it recalls concept of tiles. maybe locking sliding of cover.
However i think that it is a feature that could be implemented in order to let system have all possibilities others os have. Ok,is open, but something build by default it is ever better than patching. For e g take situation, it gives you instrument and you can combine it for you use. I start on boot calendar and other stuff that i use like clipboard to remeber tasks.
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2015-05-22
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Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt
Hmm. I personally believe that the existing multitasking view is already overloaded with too many widget-like features; loading it down with yet more widget-y stuff will just make it even harder to use as a way to view and control the running full-sized apps. It'd be better to segregate widgets into their own display.
i would rahter have them on multitasking view because it recalls concept of tiles. maybe locking sliding of cover.
Also, I should say that I've been struggling myself to get news data into a widget-sized interface on the N900. It's just not comfortable to read sentences and paragraphs of text on a postage-stamp-sized section of screen; news can really use a full-screen display. In my opinion, the existing Sailfish mechanism is perfectly suitable for this sort of task: you could use the cover to display the first few words of the most recent headline (with perhaps some icon if it is breaking news), and have the user bring up the full-screen display to read the details. (Weather should work the same way -- show the minimal details for the current location on the cover, along with a warning icon if bad weather is on the way, and have the user open the full-screen display for the details...)
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2015-05-22
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#20
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Partner space could be used for that, being right handed 99.9% of my swipes are from right edge, leaving left one for something like glance for latest update(not even full text, could be '(3)' new updates indicator), or even repatch it that swipe from left always brings the widgets event view), after plugging jolla at work swipe from left to have constantly updating news/weather/alerts, this could be quite nice and not interfere with multitasking
Hmm. I personally believe that the existing multitasking view is already overloaded with too many widget-like features; loading it down with yet more widget-y stuff will just make it even harder to use as a way to view and control the running full-sized apps. It'd be better to segregate widgets into their own display.
Also, I should say that I've been struggling myself to get news data into a widget-sized interface on the N900. It's just not comfortable to read sentences and paragraphs of text on a postage-stamp-sized section of screen; news can really use a full-screen display. In my opinion, the existing Sailfish mechanism is perfectly suitable for this sort of task: you could use the cover to display the first few words of the most recent headline (with perhaps some icon if it is breaking news), and have the user bring up the full-screen display to read the details. (Weather should work the same way -- show the minimal details for the current location on the cover, along with a warning icon if bad weather is on the way, and have the user open the full-screen display for the details...)
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(And yeah, I gotta wonder how they've perverted the Sailfish UI to avoid allowing their app to be displayed in full-screen mode...)