Originally Posted by endsormeans

but throw out an idea (at least) how we should approach a more secure and safe alternative to today's witch-burning mentality ...

or set up a thread to specifically think tank solutions with fellow members.

One thing for certain is that this community is chock full of problem solvers...tinkerers and puzzle-lovers ...always itching in their overcompensating OCD ways to find solutions.
Work with that parameter and I'm sure we will have the safer community you and we all desire.

So throw in viable, realistic, implementable ideas that the community sees and understands the need for ...and will back you up on.

My ideas?
Well...
I will never accept total anonymity amoungst members.
that is just as dangerous in a different context as handing out your real name, address, phone number and email.
it will mean the inevitable dissolution of the community you wish to protect.
But I do see a middle ground.
Making the GA members real world identities only visible to the GA ...to one another...not the real world.
That safeguards identity and at the same time is not anonymity.
Those bitching about it being a "private club" can complain all they wish..or go through the due process of joining the GA so their voice can be heard amoungst their peers legitimately
The purpose is to allow free speech, the sharing of ideas, problem solving, voting, etc. in a safe secure environment...

I am alllll for this kind of solution.
It aims to address the problem you have raised of too much personal information being exposed to the world and balances it with privacy, security, and yet is not (dangerously) anonymous.

Originally Posted by szopin

And randi joins as a member, all members' identities compromised.

Originally Posted by endsormeans

You have expressed the dangers inherent in total disclosure.

The dangers we will face from total anonymity will be:

- accusation from unknown and unreliable sources which cannot be verified or fought against.

- trolling and harassment for certain. People will join just for that joy.

-most assuredly we will see the people who want to "lift the veil" and see who's who behind the masks of anonymity... start coming round banging on the door "insisting" people are named. May as well just send another flare up in the sky ...pour more blood in the water for sharks to find us.

So ...there is a hole in the idea I threw out there...you are right...new member "randi" joins to get the list.

So.. make the registry of the names of the members part of a secure registry held in the arms of mcev or cc or both and not available for even ga members to browse.
Therein is security whilst not being completely anonymous.

I'll tell you this though szopin...you better start throwing some ideas out there that are viable.

Not just saying "informing is 1/2 the battle" ...
whilst you just do news clippings from the web and throw them here..
and continue to gripe about nothing around here getting done..
and then just shooting down ideas others give ...
without offering a better alternative...
hell ANY alternative in it's place.

'Cause you keep that up...
I can pretty much put money down on the craps table and be sure of a win on the odds that at best...
this is gonna end up being your finest one-man monologue ever.

Originally Posted by szopin

Ok I am at a bit of a loss here, if no FOIA releases real names, how can anyone stop you from accepting member with data: name xxx, usrname yyy, nick szopin? Why even require legally official members, if no checks in place (and of checks are in place foia will work for non-profit, sooo?)