Page 2 of 10 1 2 34 Last »
Reply
Thread Tools
itdoesntmatt is offline itdoesntmatt
2015-11-25 , 16:10
Posts: 529 | Thanked: 988 times | Joined on Mar 2015
#11
it would be such a total change from a company to a group of developers and technical supporter paid by users... well, it's an option, drastic but viable.
 

The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to itdoesntmatt For This Useful Post:
pichlo's Avatar
pichlo is offline pichlo
2015-11-25 , 16:12
Posts: 6,453 | Thanked: 20,983 times | Joined on Sep 2012 @ UK
#12
As aegis says.

Also, any money you pour into Jolla at this stage will be soaked up by pre-existing debts in the same way the tablet money was soaked up in the first place. There is no guarantee that your injection will be used for your intended purpose.
__________________
Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!
 

The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to pichlo For This Useful Post:
Stskeeps's Avatar
Stskeeps is offline Stskeeps
2015-11-25 , 16:16
Posts: 1,671 | Thanked: 11,478 times | Joined on Jun 2008 @ Warsaw, Poland
#13
Originally Posted by romu View Post
As far as I understood from the last meeting log, it seems that in case of definitive Jolla closing, SFOS will be fully open (except that can't be open like Alien Dalvik and keyboard prediction).
That wasn't what was said.

What was discussed is a concrete proposal that's on the shareholder/board table. It has to get approved, or not.
 

The Following 21 Users Say Thank You to Stskeeps For This Useful Post:
Dave999's Avatar
Dave999 is offline Dave999
2015-11-25 , 17:25
Posts: 7,075 | Thanked: 9,073 times | Joined on Oct 2009 @ Moon! It's not the East or the West side... it's the Dark Side
#14
Originally Posted by Stskeeps View Post
That wasn't what was said.

What was discussed is a concrete proposal that's on the shareholder/board table. It has to get approved, or not.
If that would happen. I have to say it would be Unlike!
__________________
Do something for the climate today! Anything!

I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...
 

The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Dave999 For This Useful Post:
rcolistete is offline rcolistete
2015-11-25 , 19:29
Posts: 1,269 | Thanked: 3,961 times | Joined on May 2011 @ Brazil
#15
Originally Posted by aegis View Post
You want people who didn't buy a tablet to fund the delivery of the tablet to other people?
Item (1) shows that it would also fund the further development of Sailfish OS 2.x for tablets and publish Sailfish 2.x images for some existing and popular tablet(s). So, it would benefit everybody who has some popular tablet (e.g. Nexus 9) and wants a Linux/GNU mobile OS (instead of Android).

Originally Posted by aegis View Post
IMHO, the important thing to salvage is the OS.
Wow, yeah ! Mobile OS grows in trees ! Let's wait for the next season to have new fruits, ops, new version of Sailfish OS automatically released.
__________________
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
 

The Following User Says Thank You to rcolistete For This Useful Post:
rcolistete is offline rcolistete
2015-11-25 , 19:37
Posts: 1,269 | Thanked: 3,961 times | Joined on May 2011 @ Brazil
#16
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
Also, any money you pour into Jolla at this stage will be soaked up by pre-existing debts in the same way the tablet money was soaked up in the first place.
Looking at the bar graph from the "Open letter to Jolla community: through the tough times" (24/11/2015) :

it shows approx. US$/EUR 2.7 million of pre-payments, US$/EUR 2.1 million in material+hardware for the tablet, US$/EUR 2.1 million for software development.
So, to the end user, the tablet is finished only with the software developed and the hardware built, which needed US$/EUR 4.2 million (> 2.7 million).
__________________
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
Last edited by rcolistete; 2015-11-25 at 20:27.
 
rcolistete is offline rcolistete
2015-11-25 , 19:40
Posts: 1,269 | Thanked: 3,961 times | Joined on May 2011 @ Brazil
#17
cma user in TJC suggested to "Register interest in Intex Sailfish OS Phone", by registering in the end of the page.
__________________
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
 

The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to rcolistete For This Useful Post:
aegis is offline aegis
2015-11-25 , 20:54
Posts: 702 | Thanked: 2,059 times | Joined on Feb 2011 @ UK
#18
Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Item (1) shows that it would also fund the further development of Sailfish OS 2.x for tablets and publish Sailfish 2.x images for some existing and popular tablet(s). So, it would benefit everybody who has some popular tablet (e.g. Nexus 9) and wants a Linux/GNU mobile OS (instead of Android).
"also" - my emphasis which means you're still spending community money on delivering tablets that have been already paid for by others, diverting funding away from development.

It's terrible that people have lost out on their purchases but that was the gamble. I don't see why MORE money should be spent on that bad bet.

Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Wow, yeah ! Mobile OS grows in trees ! Let's wait for the next season to have new fruits, ops, new version of Sailfish OS automatically released.
No, they don't grow on trees. That was my point about funding continued OS development or the releasing of source and not the tablet bonfire. Let's not waste more money.

If all that comes out of this is Sailfish's closed source being released then there's the roots for growing a new mobile OS.

Jolla may have spent $50m getting there. The next people might not have to spend quite that much.
 

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to aegis For This Useful Post:
gerbick
2015-11-25 , 20:58
Guest | Posts: n/a | Thanked: 0 times | Joined on
#19
Originally Posted by aegis View Post
Jolla may have spent $50m getting there. The next people might not have to spend quite that much.
Standing on the shoulders of giants works in a lot of cases; but in this case, if the continued failure continues around a piece of technology, it's usually abandoned.
 

The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to For This Useful Post:
aegis is offline aegis
2015-11-25 , 21:01
Posts: 702 | Thanked: 2,059 times | Joined on Feb 2011 @ UK
#20
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Standing on the shoulders of giants works in a lot of cases; but in this case, if the continued failure continues around a piece of technology, it's usually abandoned.
"Standing on the shoulders of giants" or "flogging a dead horse".

That is the question.
 

The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to aegis For This Useful Post:
Reply
Page 2 of 10 1 2 34 Last »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 00:40.

Contact Us - Home - Archive - Top