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2009-07-13 , 18:09
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#51
Okay, heavily optimized for Windows and OS X (WM and QT)
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Okay, heavily optimized for Windows and OS X (WM and QT)
Another try on IE7 on Windows XP:

The Windows Media worked but sooooo slow and jerky it lagged 10-20 seconds behind the camera (a Nokia 5800 phone).
Still useless.
 
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Originally Posted by Bundyo View Post
Okay, heavily optimized for Windows and OS X (WM and QT)
Just for you, I updated my screenshot and post to include an X11 forwarded Firefox 3.0.10 on Ubuntu 9.04 with plug-in from ubuntu-restricted-extras.

Playback on N8x0 tablets does appear broken though. I initially expected it to just be due to Media Player's poor ASX parser, but even when fed the true, extracted, MMS URL for a stream, Media Player chokes on the codec.
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Originally Posted by skatebiker View Post
No other sites (e.g. Youtube, CNN etc.) with video work normally.
I start the livecast on the Nokia 5800 or N810 and I see video.
Then I open the browser, log on, then I see an orange icon 'Live!' click on it and see the live page. But no video.
Moreover I see a map centered on somewhere in South Dakota while my GPS ia not on and I never entered a default location.
It seems the site is pointing to the wrong page ????

Here a screenshot of my Opera browser.



EDIT: I tried www.livecast.com/mobile on both Firefox and Opera by selecting the live page and clicking on the video icon:

Result: Firefox locked up and Opera keeps waiting....

I sent an email to the guy at Livecast on this forum jb@livecast.com.

You may need to specify a default location... Then in the programs settings (on your tablet) choose "Use my default location".

Then I bet you a donut the thing will now broadcast and you can connect from your desktop browser.

While you are in settings BTW, set it to "Stream and Archive". If it is broadcasting correctly from your tablet it will leave an archived copy on your LiveCast web page.
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
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Playback on N8x0 tablets does appear broken though. I initially expected it to just be due to Media Player's poor ASX parser, but even when fed the true, extracted, MMS URL for a stream, Media Player chokes on the codec.
Yep, same here. I would have reported this earlier but was involved with something else...

As a video recorder and a tablet camera streaming tool this works very well. Today I streamed 128 Kbps video from my tablet mounted in my truck using only a 19.2 Kbps cell phone connection.

>> http://www.livecast.com/ArcAsx.aspx?...d=683587&seq=0

EDIT: If you are using a tablet that link^ may open a media player instance but as sjgadsby indicates the player "chokes" (< technical term I assume )

More: The link works when I paste it in Mplayer though so I'm thinkin' a kmplayer plug-in is do-able.
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Yep, same here. I would have reported this earlier but was involved with something else...

As a video recorder and a tablet camera streaming tool this works very well. Today I streamed 128 Kbps video from my tablet mounted in my truck using only a 19.2 Kbps cell phone connection.

>> http://www.livecast.com/ArcAsx.aspx?...d=683587&seq=0

EDIT: If you are using a tablet that link^ may open a media player instance but as sjgadsby indicates the player "chokes" (< technical term I assume )

More: The link works when I paste it in Mplayer though so I'm thinkin' a kmplayer plug-in is do-able.
I tried the link I see 'mplayer plugin' shortly and then it stops. Same when I do my own livecast. In the latter case I see video for a few seconds, but moving my phonecam does not respond so it lags far behind.
I cannot get this to work.
I set a default location which did not help either.
Does anyone on this forum have a good video without long time lag of jerky video ?
The screenshots are just instants.
 
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Does anyone on this forum have a good video without long time lag...
This isn't videoconferencing, it's live streaming. I haven't timed the delay of this particular system, but the clients buffer about eight seconds, the server probably buffers about the same, and the encoder may use a small buffer. Delays are normal.
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2009-07-14 , 11:21
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
This isn't videoconferencing, it's live streaming. I haven't timed the delay of this particular system, but the clients buffer about eight seconds, the server probably buffers about the same, and the encoder may use a small buffer. Delays are normal.
Eight seconds times 2 ?? Way too long, Yes delays are normal but not soooo long. When I use a webcam with MSN time lag is at most 1-2 seconds or less. I do not consider 16 secs delay as live streaming.
That is why I prefer such apps without an intervening server, but AFAIK these are not for phones yet.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Just for you, I updated my screenshot and post to include an X11 forwarded Firefox 3.0.10 on Ubuntu 9.04 with plug-in from ubuntu-restricted-extras.

Playback on N8x0 tablets does appear broken though. I initially expected it to just be due to Media Player's poor ASX parser, but even when fed the true, extracted, MMS URL for a stream, Media Player chokes on the codec.
Well, I didn't say it doesn't work on linux
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Originally Posted by skatebiker View Post
When I use a webcam with MSN time lag is at most 1-2 seconds or less.
That's desktop videoconferencing, not live streaming.

I do not consider 16 secs delay as live streaming.
It's what you get with live streaming via DarwinStreamingServer, Helix Universal Server, Windows Media Server, etc. It's normal.

That is why I prefer such apps without an intervening server...
You're looking for desktop, or in this case, handheld, videoconferencing.
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