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2009-09-18
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#102
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Originally Posted by JayBomb999
@jandmdickerson
I have already pre-ordered it.
Nice!! And since your a man of your word and don't need your stylus please send it to me.
Of course I will pay shipping.
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2009-09-18
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#103
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Originally Posted by JayBomb999
I think the problem is where you are coming from that determines what is best for you.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in conveying my perspective as a new smart phone buyer. The ability to use "dosbox" isn't compelling to me. Nor is using the device wearing mittens or with fingernails. I think people only "prefer" using their nails because it's what they are used to having to do. Again, I am not in this demographic.
I think using a stylus is something long time smart phone users cling to because it's what they know. I get that. However, it's not what I know or want to know and whether you like it or not, this sentiment is growing.
Call me shallow, but being fashionable does matter somewhat to me. Frankly, I think in a world where the iPhone exists, using a stylus looks silly and old fashioned. An OS that can comfortably accommodate my finger is preferable to me. Maemo 5 appears to be able to do this 90% of time and that's good enough. It's just not ideal in my opinion.
There are plenty of other great things about this device that make me want it. I'm just saying the screen, or the 'ability' to use a stylus, fingernail, mitten, etc. isn't one of them.
Phone -> Smartphone trying to be a computer?
Or a computer trying to be a phone?
But indeed for what the mass market wants (a smartphone) the n900's choice of a resistive screen doesn't bode well for their regular uses. But for say our community that may run anything from what the default Maemo OS to OS like Debian, Ubuntu, Windows CE/95 =P it makes more sense to have it be resistive since not everyone is going rework every application ever created to be finger-friendly.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-09-18
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#104
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Originally Posted by jandmdickerson
I also said that being fashionable is somewhat important to me. I can't very well have a giant hole in the side of my device can I?
Nice!! And since your a man of your word and don't need your stylus please send it to me.
Of course I will pay shipping.
I didn't mean to say that I don't need a stylus, just that I don't want to need a stylus.
I'll think about it though.
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2009-09-18
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#105
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Bad idea on Nokia's part. Couldn't they've sent texrat or someone??
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2009-09-18
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After using Palm (Pilot, III, Visor, Vx, Treo 600, 650, 680), Sony (N70), Nokia IT (N800) and Windows Mobile (Toshiba G900 w/ 800x480!) with resistive screens.. I can't say that my overall experience with resistive screens were superior than the comfort and practicality that I get from using the capacitive screen on my iPhone (currently 3GS).
One handed usage is natural with the thumb on a capacitive screen, you don't need to bother with stowing\unlatching the stylus, and the performance is great. I don't get why capacitive screens are getting so much !@#! here.
PS: note that I don't handwrite or draw on my devices, so I've never missed the single superior feature that resistive screens have over capactiive.
One handed usage is natural with the thumb on a capacitive screen, you don't need to bother with stowing\unlatching the stylus, and the performance is great. I don't get why capacitive screens are getting so much !@#! here.
PS: note that I don't handwrite or draw on my devices, so I've never missed the single superior feature that resistive screens have over capactiive.
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2009-09-18
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#107
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Originally Posted by christexaport
Your right. However I found the iPhone's image to be a closer representation to the image or at least it was more pleasurable to me. Your exactly right in the "cooling" effect. The n97 tends to have a blue hue which I don't really care for. In short I just found the glass screen to present an overall better image. The "vivid red" you referring to is probably more of a software issue then effects of the glass/plastic screens.
What makes you think the iPhone's display was presenting a true image versus the N97? I've made this mistake before with PC monitors. Unless you have an image that has been viewed on a professionally calibrated monitor meant for media (imaging and video heads know what I mean, even if I can't think of the proper term right now), you have no reference for how the image is supposed to look.
I found the N97's screen to be far better than the iPhone, but I prefer a cooler color pallette. Its a preference. The iPhone is warmer, but it made reds too vivid, and not natural.
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2009-09-18
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#108
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Originally Posted by ysss
I think the handwriting debate with regards to resistive/capacitive screens is very very weak. You don't need a stylus to write in "difficult" languages such as chinese. A coworkwer of mine has the iPhone and has language support turned on in Chinese. He was able to use his finger and write his text messages with no problems and WITHOUT a stylus.
After using Palm (Pilot, III, Visor, Vx, Treo 600, 650, 680), Sony (N70), Nokia IT (N800) and Windows Mobile (Toshiba G900 w/ 800x480!) with resistive screens.. I can't say that my overall experience with resistive screens were superior than the comfort and practicality that I get from using the capacitive screen on my iPhone (currently 3GS).
One handed usage is natural with the thumb on a capacitive screen, you don't need to bother with stowing\unlatching the stylus, and the performance is great. I don't get why capacitive screens are getting so much !@#! here.
PS: note that I don't handwrite or draw on my devices, so I've never missed the single superior feature that resistive screens have over capactiive.
There simply are less and less reasons to use a resistive screen over capacitive. The only real TRUE advantage (notice I said advantage not preference such as "I like using my finger nail better") is that resistive screens can be used with gloves and even that issue with capacitive screens can be solved with hardware buttons.
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by ysss
The problem is you are comparing the iPhone and its capacitative screen using software designed specifically for the iPhone. Of course the usability and performance would be great, it's like if you bought a Mac with OSX on it. Both the hardware and software side is controlled by Apple.
After using Palm (Pilot, III, Visor, Vx, Treo 600, 650, 680), Sony (N70), Nokia IT (N800) and Windows Mobile (Toshiba G900 w/ 800x480!) with resistive screens.. I can't say that my overall experience with resistive screens were superior than the comfort and practicality that I get from using the capacitive screen on my iPhone (currently 3GS).
One handed usage is natural with the thumb on a capacitive screen, you don't need to bother with stowing\unlatching the stylus, and the performance is great. I don't get why capacitive screens are getting so much !@#! here.
PS: note that I don't handwrite or draw on my devices, so I've never missed the single superior feature that resistive screens have over capactiive.
But say anyone could put any type of software on Apple without following guidelines and it was approved. Your experience with finger usability and the device is quickly going to be diminished. Suddenly you'll find that your finger is to big to hit certain prompts. Or other problems similar to that.
Now with Maemo we have all sorts of software. We have software from companies (Skype, etc..), we have software created for the platform, we have software ported over from Linux desktops that are optimized. We have software ported over from Linux desktops that are unoptimized. You can imagine that if we were stuck using a purely finger interface how quickly headaches would come.
Thus the solution, a resistive screen that allows for both finger usage, and when necessary precision from the stylus or fingernail.
It's as I pointed out earlier, it depends on where you are coming from. Smartphone to computer, or computer to phone. But yes the general market generally just wants a smartphone, not a computer.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by ysss
After using Palm (Pilot, III, Visor, Vx, Treo 600, 650, 680), Sony (N70), Nokia IT (N800) and Windows Mobile (Toshiba G900 w/ 800x480!) with resistive screens.. I can't say that my overall experience with resistive screens were superior than the comfort and practicality that I get from using the capacitive screen on my iPhone (currently 3GS).
One handed usage is natural with the thumb on a capacitive screen, you don't need to bother with stowing\unlatching the stylus, and the performance is great. I don't get why capacitive screens are getting so much !@#! here.
PS: note that I don't handwrite or draw on my devices, so I've never missed the single superior feature that resistive screens have over capactiive.
I think i read somewhere in this forum about capcitative not able to support higher resolutions. I dont know how much this is true but if it is true it is very easy to understand nokia's decision. Having a high resolution is a huge advantage especially for me when i regularly vnc into my desktop.
Even if that is false does anyone know of a smartphone with capcitative screen and atleast the same resolution of the n900 which has already been released?
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I have already pre-ordered it.