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2009-11-26 , 17:46
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We've had reports of various firmware bugs, this one included, that have only come to light once the devices were out the door on the mass market. If there'd been more of an effort to engage the community in testing that simply wouldn't have happened. That's the advantage, and it's Nokia's for the taking, if they want it.
Many, many bugs were filed by early users and the 'Summit 300' well before sales start, so I really do not think you know what you are talking about here. These bugs included the ones regarding MfE.

Vitaly, I apologize for this off-topic post in your well-meaning thread.
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2009-11-26 , 17:55
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What would be on topic in this thread exactly? Discussions of the development of the Exchange sync feature? It's not the off-topic posts that are blocking that.

FWIW I'm sorry if Vitaly is feeling got at; he's clearly trying to do entirely the right thing, I just wish he was wasn't being stopped from doing it by his management.
 

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2009-11-26 , 18:12
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#73
Originally Posted by sxr71 View Post
M4E is built into the e-mail client, just the setup is not.
? But it IS! You can launch mfe setup wizard from 2 places - control panel and mail client. In the later case you just select "New account" and select "mail for exchange" as account type. What's wrong with this? Is it not obvious for end-user?

But remember - only 1 account of type mfe can be configufred in the system. If you have one account configured already, mfe will not be listed in the list of account types.

So the fix will involve the e-mail client team to fix the client itself and the MFE team to implement more reasonable sync periods (2 months, 3 month and 6 months) and also implement server search.
It also means support from serrver side. I need to check the specs before answering is it (more reasonable sync periods, as the situation with search is clear) feasible or not.
 

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2009-11-26 , 18:18
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin View Post
? But it IS! You can launch mfe setup wizard from 2 places - control panel and mail client. In the later case you just select "New account" and select "mail for exchange" as account type. What's wrong with this? Is it not obvious for end-user?

But remember - only 1 account of type mfe can be configufred in the system. If you have one account configured already, mfe will not be listed in the list of account types.



It also means support from serrver side. I need to check the specs before answering is it (more reasonable sync periods, as the situation with search is clear) feasible or not.
Maybe you should check more carefully. M4E is not a selectable account type.


If Roadsync can do it on S60 and Android, and Apple can do it on iPhone I don't see any reason why you cannot. Even 1 month with server search is fine. If you don't know that the competition has server search then it would behoove you to try some other devices to get some perspective on what you are competing with.
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2009-11-26 , 18:33
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#75
I have opened a new bug.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6349

My problem is that whne you tap on a new email notification, the email doesn't open up, but it opens a blank email

If you experience this bug, please vote
 
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2009-11-26 , 18:35
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Originally Posted by famusc View Post
I have opened a new bug.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6349

My problem is that whne you tap on a new email notification, the email doesn't open up, but it opens a blank email

If you experience this bug, please vote
Yes sometimes it happens.
 
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2009-11-26 , 18:39
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Originally Posted by sxr71 View Post
Yes sometimes it happens.
Lucky you! It happens always to me!
 
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2009-11-26 , 18:52
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#78
Originally Posted by sxr71 View Post
Maybe you should check more carefully. M4E is not a selectable account type.
I don't have my device yet, but Vitaly said after setting up an account, it won't allow you to do another. Could it be you don't see the other setup option because you've already set yours up?

I'm curious on this one, myself. Is SR overlooking something, or is Vitaly mistaken in the Mfe setup implementation? No one's perfect. But what are we talking about here, user error/overlooking or Maemo/Mfe setup features missing that they believe or expect to be there?

If Roadsync can do it on S60 and Android, and Apple can do it on iPhone I don't see any reason why you cannot. Even 1 month with server search is fine. If you don't know that the competition has server search then it would behoove you to try some other devices to get some perspective on what you are competing with.
No need to bring up competition. I don't think Maemo is about winning a race. They want to serve the users. Try to focus on showing how useful the features are to YOU and others, not Apple and other "competitors".

Apple has a great fart simulator as well, which means nothing to Maemo if users don't find it useful. But if someone needs a fart simulator for a mission critical task, it makes more sense. So explaining use cases where it is needed is far more helpful.

I'm SO glad you're here, btw, SR. You're giving some good input different from what others are saying.
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2009-11-26 , 19:31
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Vitaly, thank you for introducing the topic and for making your interest known.

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin View Post
I will deliver all the feedback about missed features in mfe and related components (mail client in this case) to the guys who make the decisions on investing into new features' implementation.
Does "mfe and related components" include imap-idle? I've already voted for #3888 and added myself to the cc: list, but it would be well appreciated if you happen to know the proper person to nudge to make this happen.
 
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Originally Posted by sxr71 View Post
Maybe you should check more carefully. M4E is not a selectable account type.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vitalyr...57255431/show/

Are you sure you don't have any MfE account configured already?

If Roadsync can do it on S60 and Android, and Apple can do it on iPhone I don't see any reason why you cannot. Even 1 month with server search is fine.
Server search - there is no question about feasibility. I mean, it is feasible.

Currently supported sync windows: 1day, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month (!), All messages.

And as far as I remember this list is done in this a way not (only) because of User Interface designers but also because this is the list supported by Exchange. 90 days was requested and I am unsure this is supported by Exchange.

If you don't know that the competition has server search then it would behoove you to try some other devices to get some perspective on what you are competing with.
I know, trust me. I have tried all the available competing solutions on the market. This is part of my job.
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