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ossipena is offline ossipena
2009-12-30 , 12:37
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Originally Posted by slender View Post
You give me money for what? If you bought some program/service from me with that or any amount of money you would be after that entitled to make any claims. Off course you should first check what I have advertised and promised. Also comparing to other alike software and demanding those features is what the customers should do! But the product is not complete until all the bugs are smashed. Sometimes it's just weird how some people think that software should be treated someway different than real physical tools which you would return ASAP if they didn't work as expected.
just that I can ***** to you. I paid what I paid because I wanted to have n900, not for announcing firmware releases beforehand.


Originally Posted by slender View Post
Hah. Professionals? Like people here in forum? There is huge amount of people who even don't know how to write or login here.

Off course you would expect that local mobile shop seller is competent enough to profile you by your needs and find right solution just for you, but at least here in Finland I have quite rarely found sells person on mobile/electronic/it area who can give me answers to my questions. Now days whole area is self service and google yourself. Why not trust everything that product maker says? Because its know fact that they promise more than they can keep? That is just fact because people think and expect it. Customers should demand same kind of results that are advertised so sellers would be more careful with advertisements.

btw. There has been quite many iterations before N900
everyone who has a little experience about modern mobile devices know, that every device with its first batch will be somewhat defective. gradually performance improves when firmware is updated.

please find me every point that nokia promised with n900 but wasn't in 42-11 firmware...

Originally Posted by slender View Post


You have quite weird attitude towards people. Actually i have seen this kind of attitude so many many times on computer/linux forums where people who have spend over half of their lives with "so easily learn" system crash with users who are starting to learn and have maybe too high expectations.

Calling stupid people (by your definition) stupid or school girls doesn't make you any better. Actually you downgrade yourself to same level. Sorry.
wrong. this is more economical statement and it is a fact. plus it doesn't downgrade me at all..

kinda:
fool and his money are soon
parted.
meaning that if you don't know what you are paying 500+ € for is stupidity. and stupidity is inexhaustible resource of human nature so there will be people who use their 500+€ just by looking one web page and/or listening salesman.
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HugoSon is offline HugoSon
2009-12-30 , 12:48
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#162
Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
please find me every point that nokia promised with n900 but wasn't in 42-11 firmware...
You must be kidding - right? Maybe the "promised stuff" is there - but does not work (MfE just as an example)...
 
Matan is offline Matan
2009-12-30 , 12:52
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#163
Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
please find me every point that nokia promised with n900 but wasn't in 42-11 firmware...
You are kidding, right?

A phone that can only dial some numbers sounds to me like something that requires an immediate fix.

But Nokia did not promise that the N900 can dial numbers starting with 7, so maybe the inability to dial such numbers will be the great feature of the new firmware.
 

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2009-12-30 , 12:58
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#164
Originally Posted by Matan View Post
You are kidding, right?
- yes - realy looks like...
 
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2009-12-30 , 13:09
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#165
Ovi maps is another example. Nokia did not neccessarily lie but just did not mention that it was not complete when advertising GPS navigation. I know people on here knew my self included but someone new to the scene would not. This is seen by the many many posts on here about voice navigation. Just because Nokia arnt lying does not mean that they are not just leaving out important bits and leaving the rest to other users to try and explain through a lot of research that Nokia did not in fact miss sell the device to a lot of people.
The firmware update\non update is another prime example Nokia did not promise it but hinted towards it and left it to other Nokia endorsed websites to pan the fires. To average joe a Admin guy on a page with a Nokia logo is Nokia.
 
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2009-12-30 , 13:11
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#166
Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
You are the first irrational, not self interested consumer on record. Are you out of your mind? Do you realize what you just said? Because of people like you this crap will continue. Shame on you.
For not acting like a spoiled child? There was no mystery around this device. It's open source because it needs it.

It's a great product for the crowd it was intended.

You've made it abundantly clear this crowd is not you.

Buying a bike when you really wanted a trike and then whining about it, only makes you a fool.

So please go buy a an iPhone and stop with the theatrics.

2d
 

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2009-12-30 , 13:45
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#167
Originally Posted by 2disbetter View Post
For not acting like a spoiled child? There was no mystery around this device. It's open source because it needs it.

It's a great product for the crowd it was intended.

You've made it abundantly clear this crowd is not you.

Buying a bike when you really wanted a trike and then whining about it, only makes you a fool.

So please go buy a an iPhone and stop with the theatrics.

2d
Yawn. Another person who believes that once a customer pays for the item, he/she should be thankful and the company can act the way the choose. For the short term, maybe, but there are tons of customers out there who don't tolerate this sort of corporate behaviour.
 
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2009-12-30 , 13:58
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#168
I suggest we split into 2 groups and wrestle naked in oil with the winners being declared 'right' :-)
 
HugoSon is offline HugoSon
2009-12-30 , 14:05
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Originally Posted by Dancairo View Post
I suggest we split into 2 groups and wrestle naked in oil with the winners being declared 'right' :-)
...that could be so nice - if we had only more female contributors in this forum
 
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2009-12-30 , 14:19
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#170
Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
Yawn. Another person who believes that once a customer pays for the item, he/she should be thankful and the company can act the way the choose. For the short term, maybe, but there are tons of customers out there who don't tolerate this sort of corporate behaviour.
Please - don't pretend you didn't understood what he said. And please stop explaining what people "really" means. People don't need to be "explained" by you, whatever you are.
 
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