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2010-01-28
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and ARM IP lawsuit gainst the A4 processor in 3..2..1
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by quipper8
Why do you assume the A4 is based on ARM? PA Semi, the semiconductor company Apple purchased back in 2008, specialised in low power POWER/PowerPC designs.
and ARM IP lawsuit gainst the A4 processor in 3..2..1
I grant you, running ARM based iPhone apps on the iPad would be sub optimal, but Apple has plenty of experience running non-native binaries on their hardware (see Apple Rosetta for running PPC software on x86 hardware) and for many applications the performance hit may not even be noticeable.
I'm certainly interested to find out more about the A4 though, it should be interesting.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
Sometimes a dedicated app will give a better end user experience than a website (particularly on a fairly low powered device)*. Content providers may prefer to offer an application over a web site for various reasons, not least control and/or financial. If they offer a tailor made iPad application they can design it for touch control, pinching etc.
I'm not suggesting it's what I would want, but it's where this may be heading.
I agree on the Ovi Store App for the phone. Blackberry App World works well on my Bold, so why not ?
I thought Windows 7 was designed for future touch input? In that case a Windows 7 application could be made to do the same thing. There are many many paid for desktop applications, not least games.
[Please note: I do not use Windows 7, probably won't for a while yet, I'm still on XP.]
Also, I don't see pinching being as great on a 10" device as on the 3.5" iPod touchscreen.
This iPad is way too big to be pocket friendly, and if you need to put it in a bag, why not just get a laptop that can do so much more? Even an Apple laptop? I would have thought 5" would be about the right size for a mobile tablet... 7" could push it but more than that, it comes into netbook/laptop territory.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
because there is no information out yet. Assumption is all we have. Thanks for th info on PA Semi though. Maybe it is Power instructions after all. we'll see. Should be interesting
Why do you assume the A4 is based on ARM?
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by sondjata
Psst, check this out:
And about that Flash stuff. Seen that HTML5 "VIdeo" Tag? Right. H264 is the future. The more of these phones, touches, and pads apple sells, the more people are going to go H264. Heck Youtube has H264 so you don't even need flash to see those videos. I know that for any client I do video for I will be strongly pushing H264.
And personally I'm tired of hitting flash pages that insist I upgrade to whatever version they think I need. H264 ends that ****.
And all those Flash UI's? I'll be glad to see them go too.
http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody
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2010-01-28
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more likely than not people using N900 don't like iPad or iWhatever. However, we need to admit that Apple has already won this round of mobile device competition. By revenues, apple has surpassed nokia and becomes the largest mobile device makers. This is really something as they just entered the market 3 years ago.
Yes, apple has a unparalleled marketing advantage that leads to their phenomenal success. Still, its success is also dependent on the fact that their 'products just work for their purposes'.
For Nokia to catch up, it needs to make its products to a level of 'just work' and MORE (those more advanced features that would earn back customers' interests). N900 and N97 are still far from this stage.
Even if Nokia manages to do that, this process won't happen overnight. It's because 1) Apple (and others) continue to compete and improve their products and 2) breaking apple's first mover advantage takes time.
I have some confidence on Nokia which survived a number of crises and regained the top spot.
Last edited by mkleung; 2010-01-28 at 02:19.
Yes, apple has a unparalleled marketing advantage that leads to their phenomenal success. Still, its success is also dependent on the fact that their 'products just work for their purposes'.
For Nokia to catch up, it needs to make its products to a level of 'just work' and MORE (those more advanced features that would earn back customers' interests). N900 and N97 are still far from this stage.
Even if Nokia manages to do that, this process won't happen overnight. It's because 1) Apple (and others) continue to compete and improve their products and 2) breaking apple's first mover advantage takes time.
I have some confidence on Nokia which survived a number of crises and regained the top spot.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
maybe they won't release the instruction set.
Why do you assume the A4 is based on ARM? PA Semi, the semiconductor company Apple purchased back in 2008, specialised in low power POWER/PowerPC designs.
I grant you, running ARM based iPhone apps on the iPad would be sub optimal, but Apple has plenty of experience running non-native binaries on their hardware (see Apple Rosetta for running PPC software on x86 hardware) and for many applications the performance hit may not even be noticeable.
I'm certainly interested to find out more about the A4 though, it should be interesting.
http://shape-of-code.coding-guidelin...e-a-come-back/
talk about locked down!
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by quipper8
they probably licensed any arm core used, and arm have no A4 out there, only A8 and A9 (there is a F4 tho, a scaled back A8).
and ARM IP lawsuit gainst the A4 processor in 3..2..1
still, i would love to see jobs eat his own smug superlatives...
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by egoshin
1) Not pitched to programmers so doesn't matter
What is this device area of usage?
Programming? - no, it is proprietary, no KBD
Voice communication? - no
Video communication? - no
Text chat? - yes, but it is TOO big for that.
Multimedia communications (photo/video)? - No, it hasn't camera.
Book reading? - yes
Watching live video? - yes, but only expensive one has 3G
Watching DRM films? - yes, but what about loading - 3G, flash, battery time, multitasking, infrastructure?
So, it's area mostly - reading/watching DRM content because reading/watching free content much better to do with less expensive device. But in this area I think it will be soon competitors - boxes which have HDMI socket for big TV screen... And you can do it yourself with simple Acer/HP boxes NOW. The only 3G may have an advantage because of mobile usage... but see note above about battery etc. At this point I think DRM content producers should subside it.
PS. Don't mix it with computer - it has nothing with it.
2) voice: it has a mic and speakers. nuff said
3) video: see my previous post
4) live video: you missed the wifi?
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N800
Diablo
Boot from MMC
Gpodder Cache on MMC
MTube Cache on MMC
Mugen 1800mAh Battery
Addesso USB rollup keyboard
Solio Solar Charger
Holux GPSlim GPS
N810
community SSU
Turbo Diablo
8GB external
Boot from Internal SD
Still no GPS Fix.
N900
Stock
32GB
Many Solar Chargers (Saved bacon during Sandy!)
Inland ProHT BT keyboard
What's this? A GPS Fix? Wowwwwwww
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N800
Diablo
Boot from MMC
Gpodder Cache on MMC
MTube Cache on MMC
Mugen 1800mAh Battery
Addesso USB rollup keyboard
Solio Solar Charger
Holux GPSlim GPS
N810
community SSU
Turbo Diablo
8GB external
Boot from Internal SD
Still no GPS Fix.
N900
Stock
32GB
Many Solar Chargers (Saved bacon during Sandy!)
Inland ProHT BT keyboard
What's this? A GPS Fix? Wowwwwwww
