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Originally Posted by bandora
its not nokias fault that you can buy tomorrow todays hottest device with half price. they just wanted to keep standing at the top of the razorblade all the time by all means necessary.
I tend to agree with gerbick... As much as I love Nokia (I have NEVER bought a phone from any other manufacturer), Nokia is well known to screw over their customers by having something soooo much better in such short time that it gets people really mad... An example of that would be N95-1 to N95-2!! I remember buying the N95-1 for almost 800 dollars then not even 2 month later something way better comes out..
And why should he bail out? Shouldn't Nokia listen to someone like him... He obviously loves Maemo but he's getting frustrated not seeing it succeed like other OSes that came out after Maemo and is crappier than Maemo!!!
There are lots of things that just can't be solved by 3rd party developers.. especially if the company iyself isn't supporting the product well enough.. Lets take a small example.. like the ability to print directly from Maemo.. Many people are asking for that (including me) but has it been implemented? Poorly and only for OS2007-OS2008, why? because developers/Nokia aren't interested on doing it.. So the users that want this feature can go ahead and get even more frustrated.. then there are the things that get fixed in the next OS or features that will be added in the next OS but you can't get it because you have to spend another ~$600+ for new device...
Can you now see how the frustration builds over time?
Is the N900 a great device.. yes.. And I wouldn't change at all.. but there are things that still needs to be implented.. and most importantly.. be supported by Nokia and the big companies (like EA or something)...
Oh.. and don't get me started on when Nokia gets us to buy ann app, game, or service then later on making that free!! or they stop supporting it overall (hint: N-Gage)
yes, nokia has already listened people like gebrick. it only takes about 2 years to turn the ship and turning has already occured a while ago.
and finally, it is good that printing isn't being coded right now, because as stated many times in this thread before: there are much more important things to solve before (rss...)
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2010-01-28
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Well yes, I know that they need to stay on top and all that.. but.. it's the way that they (used?) to do it that bugs people... like having N95-1 and N95-2 situation.. They could've made the N95-2 as N95 period...
And yes I noticed that Nokia are changing.. and I am glad that they are!! But it seems sometimes that they are still doing the "bad" things that they used to do in the past... or it sometimes seems like that..
I was giving a small example.. I know print support isn't as important as other things.. But having a device advertised as a Mobile computer it should at least have the basic functions like printing...
I also want to add.. I am not trying to be a troll and/or trying to talk crap about Nokia here.. (I am the definition of a Nokia fanboy, lol) but there's nothing wrong for me to point out what's wrong.. Afterall nobody's perfect...
My overall point is that instead of trying to defend Nokia from other Nokia users and/or making up reasons (although some of them are fully reasonable and I can't say anything about that).. We should get Nokia to recognise Maemo and build it, support it and make it even better.. I mean Maemo is already powerful and has GREAT potntial!! And I know Nokia is starting to realise that (slowly; still way better than nothing) btw.
Edit: I don't know if you guys understood the last paragraph.. as I really need to sleep.. lol.. gn all
Last edited by bandora; 2010-01-28 at 08:29.
And yes I noticed that Nokia are changing.. and I am glad that they are!! But it seems sometimes that they are still doing the "bad" things that they used to do in the past... or it sometimes seems like that..
I was giving a small example.. I know print support isn't as important as other things.. But having a device advertised as a Mobile computer it should at least have the basic functions like printing...
I also want to add.. I am not trying to be a troll and/or trying to talk crap about Nokia here.. (I am the definition of a Nokia fanboy, lol) but there's nothing wrong for me to point out what's wrong.. Afterall nobody's perfect...
My overall point is that instead of trying to defend Nokia from other Nokia users and/or making up reasons (although some of them are fully reasonable and I can't say anything about that).. We should get Nokia to recognise Maemo and build it, support it and make it even better.. I mean Maemo is already powerful and has GREAT potntial!! And I know Nokia is starting to realise that (slowly; still way better than nothing) btw.
Edit: I don't know if you guys understood the last paragraph.. as I really need to sleep.. lol.. gn all
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by bandora
and thats why they have cut half away from new announced models. So 50% less new models for now on. (they already sacked r&d people because of this)
Well yes, I know that they need to stay on top and all that.. but.. it's the way that they (used?) to do it that bugs people... like having N95-1 and N95-2 situation.. They could've made the N95-2 as N95 period...
Originally Posted by bandora
no, nokia can't change everything at once. It is too massive corporation for that (unfortunately)
And yes I noticed that Nokia are changing.. and I am glad that they are!! But it seems sometimes that they are still doing the "bad" things that they used to do in the past... or it sometimes seems like that..
I was giving a small example.. I know print support isn't as important as other things.. But having a device advertised as a Mobile computer it should at least have the basic functions like printing...
I also want to add.. I am not trying to be a troll and/or trying to talk crap about Nokia here.. (I am the definition of a Nokia fanboy, lol) but there's nothing wrong for me to point out what's wrong.. Afterall nobody's perfect...
I too hope that printing gets implemented but it really isn't the top priority for Maemo at the moment.
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2010-01-28
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So let me get this right... first they sell you the screen. Then, when you realise that typing on a touchscreen takes up half the visible space, they sell you the keyboard as an 'accesssory'. Then you realise you need the screen to sit upright so you can see it while you type, so they sell you a stand as another 'accessory'.
By which time you've paid out a small fortune and got... a netbook. Costing extra if you want 3g (whereas a netbook can take a 3g dongle from your network of choice).
You know what? Whatever it is technically, it's genius marketting!
By which time you've paid out a small fortune and got... a netbook. Costing extra if you want 3g (whereas a netbook can take a 3g dongle from your network of choice).
You know what? Whatever it is technically, it's genius marketting!
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2010-01-28
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Before I go to sleep I just want to say that I am fully aware that Nokia is changing.. but I was just pointing out on how people got frustrated with Nokia over the years, like gerbick and many others..
Anyways it's around 4AM now and I need to sleep so I signing off now
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Last edited by bandora; 2010-01-28 at 08:53.
Anyways it's around 4AM now and I need to sleep so I signing off now
haha
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2010-01-28
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Form factor:
Students have carried spiral notebooks to classes for decades. No keyboard, doesn't fit in pocket. Small handheld spiral notebooks were much less common.
So, iPad form works for students.
I am typing on virtual keyboard now, on my N900. It works great. Bigger would be better and faster, however.
Skype would be great for students, iPad doesn't have that.
$30 unlimited data plan sounds about right, if there was Skype.
Conclusion: Nokia could beat the iPad, but isn't now.
Students have carried spiral notebooks to classes for decades. No keyboard, doesn't fit in pocket. Small handheld spiral notebooks were much less common.
So, iPad form works for students.
I am typing on virtual keyboard now, on my N900. It works great. Bigger would be better and faster, however.
Skype would be great for students, iPad doesn't have that.
$30 unlimited data plan sounds about right, if there was Skype.
Conclusion: Nokia could beat the iPad, but isn't now.
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2010-01-28
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haha iPad sucks n900 is so much better
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2010-01-28
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Its an iphone on steroids :-)
And why should he bail out? Shouldn't Nokia listen to someone like him... He obviously loves Maemo but he's getting frustrated not seeing it succeed like other OSes that came out after Maemo and is crappier than Maemo!!!
There are lots of things that just can't be solved by 3rd party developers.. especially if the company iyself isn't supporting the product well enough.. Lets take a small example.. like the ability to print directly from Maemo.. Many people are asking for that (including me) but has it been implemented? Poorly and only for OS2007-OS2008, why? because developers/Nokia aren't interested on doing it.. So the users that want this feature can go ahead and get even more frustrated.. then there are the things that get fixed in the next OS or features that will be added in the next OS but you can't get it because you have to spend another ~$600+ for new device...
Can you now see how the frustration builds over time?
Is the N900 a great device.. yes.. And I wouldn't change at all.. but there are things that still needs to be implented.. and most importantly.. be supported by Nokia and the big companies (like EA or something)...
Oh.. and don't get me started on when Nokia gets us to buy ann app, game, or service then later on making that free!! or they stop supporting it overall (hint: N-Gage)
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