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#121
Originally Posted by admiral0 View Post
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Nokia is supporting the n900, but they are doing it wrong.
Bugs come first, features later.
I don't disagree... all true statements. But then this thread doesn't help any of those things. Saying Nokia has totally dropped support is untrue. Dislike the way they're supporting it all you like, they're still supporting it. And posting here isn't going to change how Nokia operates. Writing a letter to Nokia would be much more effective then posting a thread or making a blog entry. At least the letter has a chance of being looked at and read by someone employed by Nokia. Just saying...

Personally I think leaping to another device which is far less open and probably will not see an update for a much longer time frame than the N900 will is a bad move. But if that's what the OP wants to do, I wish him luck (which I said in my first post on this thread). I just advised him he may want to hold on to the N900 until he know's he's totally satisfied with his new Android device. It's up to him to decide what's best for him.
 
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Originally Posted by dreadnought View Post
feel the same way, love the device but can't live without the lack of support. Moved to a HTC Desire and very happy (particularly with the choice of Twitter and email apps) but miss the hardware keyboard, video codec support, TV out, Skype integration on the N900. It really is a great device but Nokia need to do something about making sure the device has got the basic apps that everyone uses these days...they can't rely on the community for everyone (and the community are doing a damn good job, they just don't have the time).
You just named the apps that I use every day.....keyboard,video codec support, skype....So, why move to a phone that doesn`t have these? Twitter on the other hand, I think is lame and useless!
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
The same way that I don't get why people coming to a forum for questions to be answered are met with general disgusting remarks and ownership questions
You know very well that people coming to just ask questions are not treated that way, gerbick.
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Originally Posted by admiral0 View Post
I am a C++/Qt programmer. Wanted to compile for my n900 the text editor i'm coding (cross-plaform). Oh, wait i can't run it because somebody thought it was wise to update SDK and buildbots(or whatever) with versions of qt that are not yet available....

I want to connect to my university's wifi. FAIL. Someone already reported the bug(certman s*c*s). It is FIXED in bugtracker, but oh, wait, icannot connect anyways because someone thought that user can enjoy bugs while waiting for shiny new features.
Thinking that n900 is mostly open so maybe only modem stuff, 3d and nolo are closed, i try to fix it. Oh noes, i can't -> certman is closed. So i'm asking nokia:wtf do you hide in a plain certificate manager?!
That's it? You don't want to say how much you hate Nokia or how you would like to harm their management?

And it wasn't an accident that I knew better than to upgrade my SDKs (I do 90% of my compiling on the device). You'll learn.
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#125
I feel that all these threads are going to crap! I am struggling to find many which have good, positive tones. People need to chill out and treat others nicely. We are all entitled to an opinon. Those who share their opinion have to expect someone else's opinion in repsonse.
I realise some people are getting way too frustrated by the long delays for improvements and the unknown future of the N900 hasn't helped any of us.
I for one have decided to take a break from this forum. I struggle to find anything useful.

BTW - we have a "New members say hello" thread.
Maybe we should also have a "existing members say goodbye" thread, for when people sell their N900 instead of indivudual announcements that seem to rile lots of people......
 

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Originally Posted by daperl View Post
That's it? You don't want to say how much you hate Nokia or how you would like to harm their management?

And it wasn't an accident that I knew better than to upgrade my SDKs (I do 90% of my compiling on the device). You'll learn.
)ust curious, wouldn't it be better compiling in an emulator?
 
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Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
)ust curious, wouldn't it be better compiling in an emulator?
Not while I'm driving. J/K.

When you're doing iPhone OS stuff I'd say yes, but you have a few different options with Maemo. The emulator Xephyr mode is actually the least desirable for me 'cause the armel QEMU doesn't work and the X86 target has its own problems. So, I either use sshfs and the FREMANTLE_ARMEL target, or I open 3 ssh sessions to the device. And then I also do some light coding while in bed. Since the stand sucks, the device sits up nicely on the curve of her a*s. Again, J/K.

It just so happens that the device is the best emulator, because everything actually works. I've been doing OpenGL ES and Availability stuff lately, and that should be enough said.
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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
I'm not validating anything. And yes, I could have searched, but by the same token, when I asked (and I did ask, several times), you could have answered. Assuming I even did a search on your name, since the most recent posts show first, I would have had to dig quite a while to find a non-N900 related post.
I make it a point to never answer questions to people with a tone I do not like. That's all there is too it. I owe nobody here, at a public Maemo Forum any debts whatsoever.

I've never made disgusting remarks to anyone here asking questions. I've corrected people that were saying things that were patently untrue, or misleading, or representing themselves as an authority to people asking questions and giving false information. That's quite a different thing.
The constant banter about "YOU DON'T EVEN OWN A N900!!" from folks, yourself inclusive is downright disgusting especially since this is a Nokia Maemo forum, which has been around before the N900. It's all a perspective and the sense of entitlement by the newer folks that's paid no dues other than the ownership of the newer phone in a public Maemo forum that's been here for years, and honestly in an iteration that precedes the one you now know. I'm originally a member of ITT - InternetTabletTalk that got morphed into where you belong. I preced the N900 by 2 years, and 3 devices.

There's nothing patently untrue about my opinion that asking a stranger what they do/do not own only to pass judgment is not how this forum has ever been run... until now. And honestly, as one of the "old-timers" I find it disgusting and I report it each and every time I see it.


If you search and read my posts, as you seem to want me to do for you, you'll find I've answered several people's questions, quite politely, on several topics where I'm knowledgeable. I've joined in several discussions about changes and new apps, done lots of testing and feedback, and even on occasion had a discussion or two about opinions on how companies should operate. But I've never railed against a person coming into the forum and asking a question.
I've never questioned you as you've questioned others. We're just built different that way. I don't assume, I only go by what I see.

There's a far cry between answering a question and correcting (or "clarifying") an answer that's misleading or false. And even doing that once or twice generally won't get me going. You have to be quite insistingly negative and repeatedly spreading misinformation to earn my venom. Only 2 or 3 people here have gotten me to that point here.
The fact that you're likely to even "go there" on a public forum is sorta odd to me. I've never had an "adversary" on these boards. And I've gone head to head with some of the mods, some of the other, older members... and in the end. I respect them all. I'd share beers with them; despite having a different set of opinions.

I hope you get there one day. But your ability to answer where you're knowledgeable... that's friggin' awesome. Keep up the good work. There is no sarcasm in that statement.

Take care... I'm back lurking again.
 

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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
You know very well that people coming to just ask questions are not treated that way, gerbick.
Keep thinking that. I'll report it when it happens again.

All personal feelings aside, the piranha need to be tamed. And the sheep need to be herded. And the FUD needs to be dispersed.

But if a question, even if it's veiled behind a whole lot of bravado that hides ignorance, is asked... the bravado needs to be corrected and not attacked (two wrongs don't make it right) and the swarm of nastiness needs to be reined in.

That's my opinion. I've seen ignorant "WHY DOESN'T THIS WORK!?" questions come about, attached in a whole lot of vitriol and the answer was easy... "Do this.." instead it was followed by 2 pages of "GO BUY AN iPHONE" or something.

Seriously. Is that a good look for this site?

I think not. I'll remain reporting what I see that doesn't fit. The mods do a great job as is, but can't be everywhere... I know that situation intimately. And my observation(s) shouldn't be taken so personal. It's my opinion... respect it as much as you wish me to respect yours (not directed to you).
 

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There's 2 sides to the brave stupidity gerbick... but (and I don't know why this has to be continually brought up) this is an enthusiast site, and I can't completely fault the rank and file here for having had so much of the psychopathic interloping that, yes, some do fly off half-cocked when met with an aggressive approach (especially an all-caps example as you demonstrate). And again, that's not said to defend specific instances. If I'm alerted to a real offense, I'll do what I can and if I can't do much I'll escalate it. And if there's no action taken then I'll agree with you personally that it's a travesty and then I'll continue on doing what I can.

I'm looking at the overall here, and the overall isn't bad. Some are making the gross classic mistake of confusing the loud angry rabble with the norm. That perception leads to exchanges like we have here which adds to the noise and creates or exacerbates the very thing they're supposedly trying to quench.

If anyone has issues with administration here, better to take it up with Reggie than drag it all over the forum. This has been and will continue to go nowhere this way.
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