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2010-07-22 , 10:17
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Originally Posted by Mara View Post
That might be the case lately just before all have gone to internal antenna design... But my first phone (Mobira CItyman 5000) I purchased in 1994 had this kind of extended antenna. It worked properly only in two positions (fully in or fully extended). On those positions there was a metal collar making snug fit to the antenna base . If I hold the antenna in the "middle" where the antenna wasn't making proper contact, I quickly lost many bars or dropped connection completely. The top (stub) end had this coil that you mention. I think its purpose is to extend the antenna electrical length to quarter wave... (It was 900MHz phone)
THANK YOU.. I was about to say the same thing except that I had owned two Samsung cellphones for YEARS that both had that same extending antennae arranged as you described it... and it worked GREAT when it was extended--it caught signal clear as a bell in areas MOST phones were crippled.
 
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you just went thousand miles off the track. and you are so wrong that you can't even have a clue... it is shame that people criticizing wall street people are the ones who don't even bother read up on what stocks really are etc..

but lets start with basics: share price is a price the deals are made currently with relatively small quantities. if Jobs has more cash than nokias share price multiplied by amount of shares, he can't get all the shares. that is because when you buy shares in large quantities, prices go up (demand becomes higher). usually when trying to get all the shares, you have to pay a premium. the higher the premium, the bigger the probability that you will succeed. but I'll say that with nokia it would have to be something like 200-500% to even look a bit realistic.

If I'd own nokias stock, Jobs would have to pay me about 500% premium for it.... if he don't, he doesn't really want it.
Hah... socially, lad, you were the one thousands of miles off track. I was being funny. (hence the humorous quote.)

On the other hand, you're right. Wall Street understands the stock market JUST FINE. Otherwise, they wouldn't be scamming so many people so often for so much money.

Wall Street. How do I loath thee... Let me COUNT the ways: Depression-one thousand, Keating5/Savings-and-Loans-one thousand, BCCI-one thousand, Enron-one thousand, 2008-Collapse-one thousand...
 
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2010-07-22 , 10:32
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Well, there's tons to say, but really, how long before this line of posting turns political? (hint: it's negative)
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2010-07-22 , 10:43
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Hah... socially, lad, you were the one thousands of miles off track. I was being funny. (hence the humorous quote.)

On the other hand, you're right. Wall Street understands the stock market JUST FINE. Otherwise, they wouldn't be scamming so many people so often for so much money.

Wall Street. How do I loath thee... Let me COUNT the ways: Depression-one thousand, Keating5/Savings-and-Loans-one thousand, BCCI-one thousand, Enron-one thousand, 2008-Collapse-one thousand...
only thing I can say is: if you only knew something about things...

end line:
what about bibles 7 good and 7 poor years?
"Behold, there come seven years of great plenty throughout all the land of Egypt:"
(Genesis 41:29 KJV)

now it is only 7 good years and 1-2 bad so imo there is a lot progress made. and btw we aren't riding with asses (is that right way to say it?!?) right now so... just think about it.
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heh...ooooooookay
 
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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
Oh, and, Nokia is a public limited company and a strategic industry of Finland. There is no "for sale" sign at he entrance of Finland.
Limited company will here mean limited liability, not limited "buy-out' or whatever. Steve Jobs can buy Nokia tomorrow, if he has enough cash, and is able to find enough sellers so he can get a controlling stake in Nokia. You are not forced to sell shares unless certain criteria are met - like: when Job's ownership of Nokia reaches a certain percentage, he lawfully demand the remaining share-holders to sell to him. Dunno where that limit is for a Finnish Oyj though.

Anyways, likelyhood of Jobs ever buying Nokia? <0.

For the rest of us it could be the right time to buy:



http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcd...ezd=1Y&index=5

Shares are down 50% since September last year.
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You shouldn't separate halves of phrases. What i meant is that as a registered legal company and a strategic economy branch, Finland can legally get involved. Last I checked, strategic industry branches required state approval for changes in ownership in most countries. I assumed it would be valid in Finland as well.

Well, to be frank I don't know how things work over there. But I am pretty sure this won't be an unchecked decision.
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You shouldn't separate halves of phrases. What i meant is that as a registered legal company and a strategic economy branch, Finland can legally get involved. Last I checked, strategic industry branches required state approval for changes in ownership in most countries. I assumed it would be valid in Finland as well.

Well, to be frank I don't know how things work over there. But I am pretty sure this won't be an unchecked decision.
Most likely the Finnish government would be close to powerless - would they like it? No. Could they stop it? Dunno. But that's my guess based on earlier transactions, like for example Ford selling out Volvo to China. The laws here in Europe/Scandinavia are pretty harmonized due to the EU...
 
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At 1.8 billion USD, it's not exactly the same as a Nokia acquisition. E.g., Volvo Cars has 18 Bn USD revenue, whereas Nokia has 41 Bn EUR. Also, Sweden has 330 Bn GDP, whereas Finland has 180 or so (PPP). It's not exactly the same. Oh well, we'll never know.

OTOH,

This thread is about antenna design? WTH am I talking about?
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Most likely the Finnish government would be close to powerless - would they like it? No. Could they stop it? Dunno. But that's my guess based on earlier transactions, like for example Ford selling out Volvo to China. The laws here in Europe/Scandinavia are pretty harmonized due to the EU...
The government can block it. For example, I think France blocked the sale of Ubisoft to EA.
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