Tomi T Ahonen?

Hmm am taking a guess that he messed up Nokia?

(apologies if the snipping removes too much context)

I understand T.M.O. to encompass 3 major components (this is from my experience so anyone feel free to correct me on anything I've overlooked):

Talk.
Whist not trivial nor free it sounds as if this could be straightforward to provision (it's has been previously, so is almost a known entity?). Is the DNS / Regsitration for maemo.org under our / the council's control already?

Repositories.
I see this as the most critical part for 'disaster planning' as users depend on these services who are not necessarily party to any of the conversations that happen here and elsewhere - how would an update to sources be communicated if required?
How sustainable is a mirroring approach?
Would it be disruptive to users?
In terms of finding a home for the repos is their anyone else 'upstream' (other than Nokia) who could offer any support - Debian, Gnome etc

This is the part I wouldn't know how to go about solving.

Garage.
The primary services of source code hosting, bug tracking and mail-list management could be replaced with usage of external free services; sourcecode hosting (Github or Sourceforge), mailing lists (Google Groups etc)
Whilst I'm sure this doesn't offer a feature for feature replacement - it should cover the core.


Naturally, the best outcome would be funding to continue as it is now, but we are talking Plan B / C here.

Just my thoughts on how to approach minimising some of the costs, I'm sure I've missed a lot of the subtlety though.

For one. The funding need to be handled by some entity that can take responsibility. Like the Council. They are elected. There should be a minimum of two who can follow the donations. A board meeting could be held once a month. The board decide how it will be spent. It could also be made public once a month as an extra layer of insight. The more open the process is the less arguing will be the outcome.

+ a bunch of things mentioned here, and of course backups.

A simple whois query shows that it's not.

Perhaps some hosting companies who are already contributing servers or mirrors to other projects could be approached.

Isn't there a FOSS promoting consultancy firm that actually manage the m.o servers currently? I may be wrong, but I thought they said that if Nokia "pulled the plug" on funding, they'd continue to support it. Though I may be way off-the-mark here.

I am not sure exactly but to my knowledge TMO are funded through the Meego project. So we are a part of Meego so to say. Now when Nokia have decided to retreat from Meego as primary platform the funding will get slimmer. I don't know if it is Big Nokia or someone within the Meego project that can decide on TMO's future.

It would be logical if it was someone within the Meego project. And if so i think they don't dare cut the funding.. not directly anyway. An approach like that would almost hurt the Meego community as much as the Maemo community.

However there is no way to be certain here. We need to solve the funding someway anyway. There are plenty of stuff that could become possible with money. Not just the future of TMO but also development of key functions.

Thus the importance of the Council have grown a lot. It is very important they take the lead in this. If the current organization layout needs to be reconstructed then the direction of that layout need to be decided upon soon. We need to have the ability to continue whatever the path ahead o us is.

Oh.. here are a post by Qgil on this topic: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=19

My bet is that the powers that be here will try to stick to Nokia till the funding is pried from their dead fingers. That might even be the best strategy. I am rather confused about where Reggie stands in all this, BTW.

In any case, my potential involvement has just dropped a lot; I am abandoning Nokia and even Smartphones in general. All I have ever really needed, as I have repeatedly stated, is the ability to make a phone call if my car breaks down on the freeway. Other than that, I do most of my computing at home.

I hope that a wonderful tablet awaits me someday. This site cleverly abandoned the name InternetTabletTalk, and Nokia itself cleverly abandoned tablets as a niche product with no future. So that pretty much means that my direction is parting from this site and from Nokia. Since there are a number of clever people here, I probably won't be able to resist returning here from time to time, but my interest in what happens to this site has abruptly begun to drop.

Why not just use a dumb domain of ourmaemo.org
It's not a hard transition.
This is a poor idea, but easy enough for a domain solution. If we are staying with Maemo, then the domain should have it included.