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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by HangLoose
It's step 4/5 and simple answer: early adopters.
Who will buy the promise that "this is the step 5 of 9263"?
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2010-01-28
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Oh, Sorry! I did hit the edit button at my former email.
Last edited by cder; 2010-01-28 at 06:17.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by gerbick
yes, it is missing pieces but one can see the guidelines very clearly. And I personally aren't waiting a miracle from the 5th step, but I wait for clearly better out of the box -experience.
I'm up for an argument
To argue that the 5 steps will get Nokia there is a leap of faith; almost as faithful as the Cult of Mac in my opinion. So far, each step they've restarted thus far. And none of these steps are as mainstream, nor commercially backed as the competition nor Symbian. To me, that's a slight problem if you want to be mainstream - the support needs to be present sometime, does it not?
And the wonders of open source won't give me video Skype calls. Or give me a better experience with the e-mail app.
My point is that there is a need for refinement right now. And this isn't comparing a damn thing to Apple. I'm talking as a Nokia user that sees more opportunity to be better than what I experience today.
If this is step 4 out of 5, it should have been this step two years ago. Not where I have to show patience for step 5 out of 5 sometime in 2011.
To say that everything is ok, boo with all other competition is pretty much like wearing blinders. The big picture is missing a lot of pieces. Ovi... support from big companies, continued support and development, and a more concerted attempt to make the steps make sense. Start, stop, restart... repeat.
That does not instill faith.
You dont seem to get it that it has been clearly announced that fremantle isn't 100% ready product and still you compare it to others. A whole different thing when compared to N97......
and the steps are what they are, there is no need to be hindsighted with those. If you have problem, you shouldn't be using Maemo yet.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by gerbick
DRM yes, thats one thing which noone has been able to figure out what has been dropped in the N900.
Mozilla and H.264... not gonna happen easily. $5 million in yearly licensing - read here...
And Flash... Gordon works on the iPhone as well as N-series tablets. Work in progress, but a lot of people are watching this too.
The iPad isn't for me. The N810 was. So was the 770. The N900 isn't for me.
But I have totally different needs than what's being brought up in this thread... I'm a programmer, but I know most laptops that won't crush my lap isn't an option. I need Java, Flex, Flash, Photoshop... so even the mighty N900 falls way short.
And the iPad fell even shorter. But I won't sit here and act like Maemo is perfect. It's not. I won't talk about the CPU - it runs a system with more developers and corporations behind it. DRM? Sure... amazingly enough you can buy audiobooks via Ovi on your N900 and can't even play them now. Work out the problems in your own backyard before pointing at another talking about "reality distortion fields", "marketing", "hype", et al.
The N900 was (here) hyped. I think it fell flat - forward facing camera that's as useful as the one on the N810 - read: not at all useful. Can't view Hulu - Adobe can be blamed, but Nokia should keep Adobe on the platform and up-to-date (I know, I know... it's an update away, it's coming... it's not here right now is it?)...
Nokia has a great platform. Even greater community. But damn, nitpicking about the competition that offers a few more things than what's out there - what's the last updated software that came from a third-party? And when will Ovi actually work for the N900?
I also want Nokia/Maemo to do well. Hell, I've been stupid enough to purchase two internet tablets already. I'd buy a third one if they get more support.
iPad... still doesn't have true multi-tasking. Now, Nokia needs to get some traction post haste.
About the flash version, i would say that at the least the platform offers an option to have it. The upgrade not being available is something which Adobe has to work on, not Nokia and given that the v9,4 release was available nothing should be stopping Adobe from releasing 10.1 as well given that Nokia is on the Open Handset Alliance. I am not hoping for a available *right now* but more for a available and stable version.
Ovi is and has been Nokia's Achilles Heel. If it were executed well it could have been Nokia's greatest and breakthrough achievement, but they seem intent on messing it up for some reason from the initial launch to the compatibility with latest releases.
The iPad would undoubtedly find its own fan following, but its not very likely that there will be many from the people on this forum. Only those who have a specific need thats satisfied by the iPad or someone for whom the Nokia N900 or 8xx were never meant for.
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A2DP unstable when WiFi is on.
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"Wi-Fi Protected Setup" doesn't work, is not optional, and is used when disabled.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by sondjata
I don't see many application for my car but it has CPU and memory inside. Just locked.
1) Not pitched to programmers so doesn't matter
2) voice: it has a mic and speakers. nuff said
3) video: see my previous post
4) live video: you missed the wifi?
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2010-01-28
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Actually, quite a lot of things are supposed to be seen this year: Symbian^3, 4, Maemo 6, a revamped Ovi Store and services, more Qt, etc.
2010 is going to be an interesting year for Nokia and I think they started it well with free Ovi Navigation.
However, patience is wearing thin: their releases better be very polished or people will turn to the competition.
I still have faith. But in Christmas 2010 I will renew my mobile devices and depends on Nokia if I will buy of theirs...
2010 is going to be an interesting year for Nokia and I think they started it well with free Ovi Navigation.
However, patience is wearing thin: their releases better be very polished or people will turn to the competition.
I still have faith. But in Christmas 2010 I will renew my mobile devices and depends on Nokia if I will buy of theirs...
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by ossipena
I don't think that you seem to get that I don't want to wait any longer from OS 2006 to now. I've done my share of waiting.
yes, it is missing pieces but one can see the guidelines very clearly. And I personally aren't waiting a miracle from the 5th step, but I wait for clearly better out of the box -experience.
You dont seem to get it that it has been clearly announced that fremantle isn't 100% ready product and still you compare it to others. A whole different thing when compared to N97......
and the steps are what they are, there is no need to be hindsighted with those. If you have problem, you shouldn't be using Maemo yet.
What part of that is hard to understand? There is no reason I should still be subject to such a sub-par experience some nearly 5 years later.
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2010-01-28
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I don't think that you seem to get what I was saying.
I don't think that you seem to get that I don't want to wait any longer from OS 2006 to now. I've done my share of waiting.
What part of that is hard to understand? There is no reason I should still be subject to such a sub-par experience some nearly 5 years later.
If you really have done your share of waiting, then just bail out. That shouldn't be so hard, all that is required is not to buy any Maemo devices anymore.
Of course this is unfortunate but one (big corporation) can't please everyone. Nokia has its own plans and if you don't like what they're doing you have 2 choices: spent your money anyway and be miserable or don't spend money and be happier.
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2010-01-28
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Honestly, I would get this iPad for that price!
IMO, here's the advantages:
-Slim & light, excellent if you frequently use the bus, train or metro!
-It's a multi-touchscreen, I could actually write my school notes on it!
-~10inch screen, watch movies and play games on the go! From what I saw, the screen is brilliant and clear at any angles!
-10 hours battery... that's just awesome!
-For 500$, I think it's well worth the price
Disavantages
-32gb might not be enough
-Limited softwares... Can you install games on it? Like world of warcraft? I don't think so...
-No built-in camera...
This gadget is most likely for webrowsing users and students. I am quite sure that it'll be a huge success just like the iPhone.
Nokia N900 still remain my precious. Phone/camera/web browser/gps/music player/movie player !!! You can't go wrong with a N900
IMO, here's the advantages:
-Slim & light, excellent if you frequently use the bus, train or metro!
-It's a multi-touchscreen, I could actually write my school notes on it!
-~10inch screen, watch movies and play games on the go! From what I saw, the screen is brilliant and clear at any angles!
-10 hours battery... that's just awesome!
-For 500$, I think it's well worth the price
Disavantages
-32gb might not be enough
-Limited softwares... Can you install games on it? Like world of warcraft? I don't think so...
-No built-in camera...
This gadget is most likely for webrowsing users and students. I am quite sure that it'll be a huge success just like the iPhone.
Nokia N900 still remain my precious. Phone/camera/web browser/gps/music player/movie player !!! You can't go wrong with a N900
To argue that the 5 steps will get Nokia there is a leap of faith; almost as faithful as the Cult of Mac in my opinion. So far, each step they've restarted thus far. And none of these steps are as mainstream, nor commercially backed as the competition nor Symbian. To me, that's a slight problem if you want to be mainstream - the support needs to be present sometime, does it not?
And the wonders of open source won't give me video Skype calls. Or give me a better experience with the e-mail app.
My point is that there is a need for refinement right now. And this isn't comparing a damn thing to Apple. I'm talking as a Nokia user that sees more opportunity to be better than what I experience today.
If this is step 4 out of 5, it should have been this step two years ago. Not where I have to show patience for step 5 out of 5 sometime in 2011.
To say that everything is ok, boo with all other competition is pretty much like wearing blinders. The big picture is missing a lot of pieces. Ovi... support from big companies, continued support and development, and a more concerted attempt to make the steps make sense. Start, stop, restart... repeat.
That does not instill faith.